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Old 31-05-2020, 03:13 PM
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The intoxicants claim is very suss. The prosecutor listed 'potential intoxicants'. Potential? Easy to test for drugs and alcohol - so what are the 'potential' chemicals they are referring to? Why didn't they test for them and how can these unknowns have contributed to his death?
Reading the autopsy report (done he day after death) it reads like a book of reasons that could be given to a jury to let the Policeman off, and frankly I dont believe a word of it

Things have developed a bit since that though
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Just a coincidence he had a 250lb man kneeling on him restricting his airway at the time eh
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Old 31-05-2020, 03:21 PM
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Does anyone else see the irony of these protests in London that Black Lives Matter in which thousands are clearly not social distancing when there is a virus going round that affects BAME people the most...
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Reading the autopsy report (done he day after death) it reads like a book of reasons that could be given to a jury to let the Policeman off, and frankly I dont believe a word of it

Things have developed a bit since that though
Do you have a link to the report? I was looking for one but couldnít find it.
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Old 31-05-2020, 03:25 PM
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Does anyone else see the irony of these protests in London that Black Lives Matter in which thousands are clearly not social distancing when there is a virus going round that affects BAME people the most...
Sounding dangerously close to 'what about black on black crime' there.

You're not necessarily wrong but cops killing blacks and and a virus killing them because they made a free choice to join a protest are vastly different.
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Do you have a link to the report? I was looking for one but couldnít find it.
Sorry, slightly misleading, I should have said reading the headline comments from the coroner
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Sorry, slightly misleading, I should have said reading the headline comments from the coroner
Got it. Thatís all I could find also. Guess it wasnít released.
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I can't really speak to the South as I have spent little time below the mason dixon line. Kicked around NOLA a bit and I know race problems are far reaching there.

Obviously the old allegiances of the civil war run deep, you still see confederation flags and look the battles over civil war statues. I'm pretty sure your point stands.

That black and white communities live apart is pretty much true for the whole country.
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Old 31-05-2020, 03:37 PM
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Sounding dangerously close to 'what about black on black crime' there.

You're not necessarily wrong but cops killing blacks and and a virus killing them because they made a free choice to join a protest are vastly different.
You made a massive leap there!

The pictures I am referring to is actually mostly white people failing to distance... I wasn't suggesting black on black in any aspect.
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You made a massive leap there!

The pictures I am referring to is actually mostly white people failing to distance... I wasn't suggesting black on black in any aspect.
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Old 31-05-2020, 04:09 PM
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They tried the peaceful approach, nothing changed

Its not bollocks at all, they got called sons of bitches


Good point. But the poster you are responding to is a far right wing troll who doesn't deserve any attention.
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Good point. But the poster you are responding to is a far right wing troll who doesn't deserve any attention.
The bollocks comment was aimed NOT at the "peaceful protest" but at a comment another poster made, who first strawmanned my arguments then claimed the riots escalating over being called SoBs.

Not a single one of my detractors have been able to find proof of my supposed support for police brutality or that the black community don't have legitimate grounds.

Because I made no such claims.

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Iíve been listening to a bit of American radio... and a few protesters have been saying Noye is innocent... is Noye... the Asian cop who was facing the camera... as they may have a point... Iím not sure he can be blamed for what is going on behind him.
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Iíve been listening to a bit of American radio... and a few protesters have been saying Noye is innocent... is Noye... the Asian cop who was facing the camera... as they may have a point... Iím not sure he can be blamed for what is going on behind him.
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The bollocks comment was aimed NOT at the "peaceful protest" but at a comment another poster made, who first strawmanned my arguments then claimed the riots escalating over being called SoBs.

Not a single one of my detractors have been able to find proof of my supposed support for police brutality or that the black community don't have legitimate grounds.

Because I made no such claims.

Your contributions in the Donald Trump thread are testament to your credibility and sincerity about such matters. Your ascension to google scholar of Islam supports the same lack of credibility.

You have none.

All you've done on here is to come and muddy the waters, as people like you tend to do.

Your one point on here has been "looting is bad, killing others is bad, burning things is bad." Nobody disagrees.

You overstepped the line when you began to define and detract from the movement and put your own definitions on it.

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Just like a group of racists can get together and speculate about some perceived privileges white persons receive, the same racist analysis could be applied to any group of people. Is it racist to say that there is black privilege in the NFL or the NBA? or Asian privilege in business school? or Muslims privilege in being less likely to being a direct target of a terrorist attack by Isis? This sort of thinking is obvious bigotry. To single out a group of people on an arbitrary criteria like skin color is absurd, but worse still, it does nothing but promote racism rather than race tolerance and individual respect.
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