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Old 20-02-2017, 03:29 PM
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Wonder what happened to cause that?
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I don't think it did... In fact it clearly said on numerous occasions it wanted to negotiate a trade deal to access the market rather than remain part of it. But hey feel free to keep peddling the lies

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wonder why Cameron didn't apply those brakes if it was always in his gift? Instead he sought a "new deal" for something which already existed???
Those were my thoughts at the time. Had similar issues with Grayling when he was DWP: more time tilting at windmills than asserting the rules that existed & which some other countries used better than us. Problem is that by the time Cameron sought his deal, he had already lost the good will needed to get consensus.
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Old 20-02-2017, 04:13 PM
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Once Britain has left the EU will the ECB change their deflationary, austerity, budget cutting policy of forcing countries with high youth unemployment to reduce their deficit through cuts and tax increases? Will countries still have to dance to the tune of the German piper and suffer youth unemployment misery in exchange for the benefits of low interest rates as guaranteed by a German dominated central bank? If yes, then the good citizens of the EU will still want to come to work in Britain and there will be little difference apart from a few restrictions on benefits and entrance for criminals.
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Old 20-02-2017, 04:42 PM
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Someone still likes us. Expedia to double their London offices. What with Google, Amazon, IBM, Snapchat and Facebook all expanding in London it makes you wonder why we are leaving? I know I keep saying this but there has to be a better way. If we would only share the proceeds of growth, free trade and free movement more widely from a demographic and regional perspective then we wouldn't have the same level of housing crisis and growing employment inequality we have now. Yeah I know - the winners from the current system are doing just fine..
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Old 20-02-2017, 04:47 PM
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Remind me, where are Expedia's offices going to be?
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Wonder what happened to cause that?
Angry remoaners who didnt agree with the #Brexit vote, angry with #Leavers ?

There certainly has been an increase in er... shall I say "vocal / verbal nastiness" on the BBS completely down to the #Brexit and people not liking the outcome of the vote and getting angry towards those that did.
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Remind me, where are Expedia's offices going to be?
The Angel I think. I wonder if the magnificent Blue Coat Boy is still there. Those of us who are relics from the late 70s will remember the pub.
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We know all this, but how any of this is relevant, I don't know.

But here we go, I'm being drawn in....

As for the Naval treaty of 1935. Adolf Hitler and Germany at this time was very different to the one that followed. Also bearing in mind the previous World War, people wanted to avoid another conflict. In addition anything that could delay any war was of importance, in 1935 we didn't even have any spitfires yet. To also judge history on today's standards is one thing, but then to add in things like we signed a naval treaty is odd.

The reason Hitler liked the Bengal lancer and the Indian empire was due to his twisted logic that the Germanic race was superior, 'look at them, 250k Britishers lording it over some 400 million Indians'.

You have your view, that we aren't a tolerant country, and now we have to resort to bring the past and Hitler into it, when it just makes it even more apparent your argument is weak, at best.
Those ideas of 'racial' superiority were used a long time before Hitler came along to justify the slave trade by UK slave owners - if you wish to believe that the UK is a tolerant society then go ahead - it is not the view from those that suffered under its colonialism or its imperialism...you have a large pair of rose coloured glasses...or maybe you've forgotten the rivers of blood speech...which matches many of the sentiments of some of the leavers very loudly today To view the link you have to Register or Login
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Old 20-02-2017, 05:16 PM
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The Angel I think. I wonder if the magnificent Blue Coat Boy is still there. Those of us who are relics from the late 70s will remember the pub.
So London then.
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Wonder what happened to cause that?
Brexit may have stirred these thing up and regrettable as it is its not a reason to consider whether it goes ahead or not.
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So London then.
Very astute. Nice and near Thameslink, Crossrail, HS1 and no doubt the 30bn Crossrail2.
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Very astute. Nice and near Thameslink, Crossrail, HS1 and no doubt the 30bn Crossrail2.
that'll be the London that contributes 22% of UK GDP despite having 12% of the population.

And you think London needs to share the proceeds more?

Does London get twice everyone else gets in spending per capita?
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Because if you didn't know anyone was foreign in the first place, and instead it appeared to be just a natural increase in the indigenous population, nobody would be complaining.
This is bang on the money. The population in the UK went up from 40 million to nearly 70 million in the last hundred years, does anyone think that's a problem? Do we have calls for population culls with a one child policy?
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that'll be the London that contributes 22% of UK GDP despite having 12% of the population.

And you think London needs to share the proceeds more?

Does London get twice everyone else gets in spending per capita?
How do you work out the 22%?
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Comparative to many other countries, I'd agree Britain is tolerant. But it seems to be regressing and doing so from a point where there was still far too much intolerance.
Exactly.

Historically the UK was one of the most intolerant and brutal and intolerant countries you could come across, from ethnic cleansing in the USA and Australia, concentration camps in Kenya and South Africa, the slave trade and imperialism ruling most of the world and developing the idea of racial superiority to justify it all.

However today the UK is one of the more tolerant countries (although the bench marks aren't great), but as you say, it's still from a place of way too much intolerance and going backwards. Brexit has played in to this.
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Once Britain has left the EU will the ECB change their deflationary, austerity, budget cutting policy of forcing countries with high youth unemployment to reduce their deficit through cuts and tax increases? Will countries still have to dance to the tune of the German piper and suffer youth unemployment misery in exchange for the benefits of low interest rates as guaranteed by a German dominated central bank? If yes, then the good citizens of the EU will still want to come to work in Britain and there will be little difference apart from a few restrictions on benefits and entrance for criminals.
There will be huge differences from FOM. Also all the negative things here you rightly list about the EU are as bad and worse in terms of the UK state, with far worse anti-trade union laws, workers rights and privatisations.
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How do you work out the 22%?
ONS data for 2013. Though this could be after they moved a large chunk of the ONS to Wales and it all went to shit
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