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Old 20-05-2019, 09:01 AM
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The US doesn't have any domestic mobile infrastructure vendors and Huawei is two years ahead of its competitors (Ericsson and Nokia). Trump is also worred about China stealing a lead in areas such as AI. Yes, Huawei has been guilty in the past when it comes to issues around IP but in this case the accusations are completely groundless - no one has found any evidence of security breaches in its equipment.

All IT systems have "back doors" its just a question of who holds the key.
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Old 20-05-2019, 12:31 PM
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If Huawei developed its own open source OS, surely the US wouldnt have any reason to bar them? Open source is the way.
Huawei has almost unfettered access to EU and American market*, no big Western technology company has the same treatment in China. If the Chinese refuse to allow Western technology companies, why should they be allowed in the West?
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Old 20-05-2019, 09:43 PM
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I love the way we're supposed to take this at face value. The evil chinee and his state sponsored spying tech firm, versus the open faced brave pioneer entrepreneurs of American tech.
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Old 20-05-2019, 10:00 PM
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Innit. Resplendent in my tin foil hat, I'm of the opinion that they're all spying & being arseholes. Huawei are only getting shit because they're a different firm.
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Old 20-05-2019, 11:42 PM
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Old 21-05-2019, 01:05 AM
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Was literally about to get a P20 Pro. As with the excellent P30 on the market, the prices have gone down.

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I got a Mate 20 Pro a few months ago.

I have to assume this is just blackmail by Trump. ZTE paid $1 billion to somebody to get off the naughty list. It's not like the NSA isn't spying on Americans or anything anyway. I'm wondering what China will do in response.
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Old 21-05-2019, 05:49 AM
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I've got a P20 Pro - it's a great phone. The camera is amazing. But I wouldn't buy one now.
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Old 21-05-2019, 05:54 AM
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I got a Mate 20 Pro a few months ago.

I have to assume this is just blackmail by Trump. ZTE paid $1 billion to somebody to get off the naughty list. It's not like the NSA isn't spying on Americans or anything anyway. I'm wondering what China will do in response.
Me to, does this mean its not getting anymore updates?
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Old 21-05-2019, 06:00 AM
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I got a Mate 20 Pro a few months ago.

I have to assume this is just blackmail by Trump. ZTE paid $1 billion to somebody to get off the naughty list. It's not like the NSA isn't spying on Americans or anything anyway. I'm wondering what China will do in response.
Well they cannot restrict Cisco and the like from China because they have already done that.
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Old 21-05-2019, 06:17 AM
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Old 21-05-2019, 10:54 AM
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Quite interested by an article on the front of El País today which poses the question "is it viable to own a mobile with neither GMail nor Google maps". I have neither. GMail was a bridge too far for me anyway, on the surveillance front, and I uninstalled Google Maps when I was staying in China (Google doesn't work there, and I found the Apple maps perfectly adequate). For the same reason I simply stopped using Google search, and never went back.
I know it's a long shot, but could this actually blow up in Google's face?
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Old 21-05-2019, 11:00 AM
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I see today on Yahoo's UK Finance site it looks like Huawei are going to open an enormous new tech hub outside Cambridge. I thought something like that would be coming.
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Old 21-05-2019, 11:04 AM
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According to the article, you can't use Uber (which depends on Google Maps) or Spotify (music lodged in Google Cloud) without going through Google. And in fact neither service is available in China - and nor is Facebook, WhatsApp, etc.
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Apple, Microsoft and Google all have privacy issues, but they do not sell and manufacture data infrastructure which I assume is the main problem with Huawei.

Although not that tech savvy maybe they could use the phone hardware to launch denial of service attacks but then.

If government doesn't trust Huawei why trust any other brand of Chinese manufactured tech?
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Old 21-05-2019, 11:45 AM
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According to the article, you can't use Uber (which depends on Google Maps) or Spotify (music lodged in Google Cloud) without going through Google. And in fact neither service is available in China - and nor is Facebook, WhatsApp, etc.
My son's working in China and he uses Uber.
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Old 21-05-2019, 11:46 AM
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Really?
Where in China? I saw no evidence of Uber.
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Old 21-05-2019, 11:48 AM
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There is a local service called Didi, though. Tricky to use unless you know some Chinese, and all tied in to WeChat, in my experience.
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Old 21-05-2019, 11:51 AM
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I read a article that suggested Uber had vacated China but after taking a large stake in the Chinese dominant firm?
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