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That is a true story, and if you know Dave you would believe what he says, Don't think anyone at Palace will have a bad word to say about Dave Garland.
Yeah fair enough i'm nott saying he's lieing but these things are always prone to a bit of a dramatic exggaration.
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Yeah fair enough i'm nott saying he's lieing but these things are always prone to a bit of a dramatic exggaration.

What part of that being a true story don't you understand ?, Dave did not exaggerate, He just shit on the club and Dave.
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On a separate note - is Charlie Mann still at Croydon?
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On a separate note - is Charlie Mann still at Croydon?

He played a couple of games recently, did really well, but he was only cover as our two keepers were injured, I actually think he is better than one of them
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i think Ben might be one of the many who get a taste of professional football , and then struggle to adapt to the non league game ! (i.e holding down a job and playing football !)
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On a separate note - is Charlie Mann still at Croydon?

Charlie Mann signed for Harlow Town just before Christmas (from Croydon Athletic).
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Puts Wilfs attitude into perspective. Where is Mr Kodjodji now?
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A former Crystal Palace striker was today sentenced to six years in jail for drug dealing.

Ben Kudjodji, 29, of Mulgrave Road, Croydon, had previously pleaded guilty to two counts of possession with intent to supply cocaine, possession with intent to supply herbal cannabis, possession with intent to supply MDMA and possession of criminal property.

Kudjodji, pictured below, came through the youth ranks at Palace but only made one appearance off the bench, as an 89th minute substitute in 2-0 win against Barnsley at Selhurst Park on March 15, 2008.



He left the club in the summer of 2008 and had unsuccessful spells at Bromley and Croydon Athletic.

He was sentenced today at Snaresbrook Crown Court alongside Karl Dowbiggin, 48, of Tapestry Gardens, Birkenhead, Wirral, who was sentenced to nine years’ imprisonment having pleaded guilty to possession with intent to supply cocaine and MDMA.

On July 2 last year, officers from the Metropolitan Police’s Organised Crime Command approached a car in Hurst Road, Croydon.

Kudjodji, who was in the driver’s seat, ran from police and was detained after a foot chase.

As Dowbiggin was removed from the vehicle, a blue carrier bag fell out of the car and was found to contain 2,000 MDMA tablets.

Police also found 125g of high purity cocaine in the driver’s door and £4,500 inside Dowbiggin’s rucksack.

The two men were arrested for possession with intent to supply MDMA and cocaine and a subsequent search of Kudjodji’s home recovered £28,000 in cash and a search of his girlfriend’s property recovered 146g of high purity cocaine, 28.7g of MDMA and 85g of cannabis, along with a set of electronic scales.

Detective Superintendent Neil Ballard from the Metropolitan Police Specialist Crime Command said: “These convictions show the MPS’ commitment to tackling organised criminals who seek to profit from the misery inflicted by the distribution of drugs.

“I am pleased that these two men now face a significant prison sentence.

“I would encourage anyone who has information regarding the supply of drugs to contact police with their concerns, so that appropriate action can be taken against the criminals involved.”
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Pretty sure he never made it with us because he was a bit "dodgy" and had an attitude problem.
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He was caught by a copper after a foot chase?

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Why did I open this thread expecting it to be an arrest?
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Why did I open this thread expecting it to be an arrest?
I thought it was more likely to be another triumph for our scouting department
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I daresay there are probably plenty of others like him out there. We really use young kids to an extent. Sure, they have a chance of riches and landing one of the easiest jobs you could ever imagine. But when they drop out at the point at which it looks like they might actually make it, they appear to leave professional football with no real qualifications and no real prospects.

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Warnock had just signed him as well...
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I daresay there are probably plenty of others like him out there. We really use young kids to an extent. Sure, they have a chance of riches and landing one of the easiest jobs you could ever imagine. But when they drop out at the point at which it looks like they might actually make it, they appear to leave professional football with no real qualifications and no real prospects.

Easy targets for villains.
That is an excuse. He actions have taken him to here. Ive met plenty of people who have played for clubs as a youth player and had a successful life.
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I didn't make an excuse for him - just said that I can see how he could have ended up in the wrong crowd after football didn't work out for him. Had he got decent qualifications through us, maybe he could have gone on to be a plumber, teacher, accountant, etc. But it seems the football business doesn't think too much about that, and that's a failing I think.
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I didn't make an excuse for him - just said that I can see how he could have ended up in the wrong crowd after football didn't work out for him. Had he got decent qualifications through us, maybe he could have gone on to be a plumber, teacher, accountant, etc. But it seems the football business doesn't think too much about that, and that's a failing I think.
Agree completely. Football doesn't care enough about what happens to its discarded players. It sells them the dream and then dashes it with no consideration as to potential effects.

Of course individuals can make their own choices, and it is not to excuse anyone turning to crime, but there are significant social factors which need to be taken into account.

One player who was tipped for the top at 17 at Palace was from a very poor family in Brixton, with several siblings and he was the main earner on his first pro deal. That's a lot of pressure for a kid to burden along with the other aspects of trying to make it at as a pro.

But when players are released there's very little, if any support even now. I would say that things are much better than they were 10 years ago in terms of ensuring kids get some sort of education even when they are full time in an academy but it's not really great.

I would say that generally the sort of people who end up committing crimes like this would probably do so regardless of whether they had been in a football academy and let go, but had he been given more support then you'd suggest the likelihood of offending may decrease.

Very complicated but certainly football clubs should do more for kids released from academies.
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Croydon Athletic manager, Dave Garland has criticised striker Ben Kudjodji after the former Crystal Palace forward walked out on the Rams after just one game.

Garland had released Omari Coleman, Luke Fontana and Michael Harney from the club just days before to free up space for the 19-year-old, but he refused to train after playing in last Tuesday’s defeat to Sittingbourne.

Garland said: “I asked him to come training with the physios on Thursday but he didn’t so I went to his house and asked him if he was fit, he told me to speak to his agent.

“He didn’t have the heart to tell me he didn’t want to play for us anymore and I can’t tell you what I said to him.

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Agree completely. Football doesn't care enough about what happens to its discarded players. It sells them the dream and then dashes it with no consideration as to potential effects.

Of course individuals can make their own choices, and it is not to excuse anyone turning to crime, but there are significant social factors which need to be taken into account.

One player who was tipped for the top at 17 at Palace was from a very poor family in Brixton, with several siblings and he was the main earner on his first pro deal. That's a lot of pressure for a kid to burden along with the other aspects of trying to make it at as a pro.

But when players are released there's very little, if any support even now. I would say that things are much better than they were 10 years ago in terms of ensuring kids get some sort of education even when they are full time in an academy but it's not really great.

I would say that generally the sort of people who end up committing crimes like this would probably do so regardless of whether they had been in a football academy and let go, but had he been given more support then you'd suggest the likelihood of offending may decrease.

Very complicated but certainly football clubs should do more for kids released from academies.
Why should kids who had a talent but are released ‘get some support’ while kids who never played or had sports talent at a club get none. Plently of kids in the same situation with their families and have to make do finding their own career without support.

We all learn hard lessons in life that things dont happen as we wished or delievered on a plate. You either strive to suceed or become bitter. I dont see how the club are anyway responsible for what has happened to Kudjodji, he has found his path bu the choices he has made.
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Why should kids who had a talent but are released ‘get some support’ while kids who never played or had sports talent at a club get none. Plently of kids in the same situation with their families and have to make do finding their own career without support.

We all learn hard lessons in life that things dont happen as we wished or delievered on a plate. You either strive to suceed or become bitter. I dont see how the club are anyway responsible for what has happened to Kudjodji, he has found his path bu the choices he has made.
Weird post. I didn't say that those who never played or had sports talent at a club shouldn't get any support. You made it mutually exclusive not me. I mean it's also a totally different environment as well.

Football clubs have millions of pounds and significantly affect the lives of young people, they have them full-time from the age of 16 and force them to follow a certain path for at least two years, there are so many extra pressures on them as a result of being full-time at a football academy and they are often away from their families etc. These kids have to choose between potentially having a career in football or giving up on their education. You can't train full-time at a football club and study for 4 A Levels and then go to Uni.

There is no reason that football clubs should not then take some responsibility for trying to help them that when things don't go well and they get let go at 18, 19, 20, 21 etc that they having told them to commit absolutely everything they have to making it professional and selling them the dream telling them to believe in being a pro footballer, smash all of this into pieces by letting them go.

Nobody is saying that the club is responsible for what has happened to Ben Kudjodji, more that it's possible that with more intervention there was a lesser chance of him going down this route. That's not saying that they are directly at fault.
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