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Old 08-01-2019, 10:56 AM
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That really is a very stupid post.

And that’s the only response that it deserves.
I've just seen the complete mess you and the nipple man and that weird drunk who prances around pretending to be Irish have made of the Scottish indie thread just because a decision was made that you disagreed with and for once in your life stamping your feet on the ground didn't mean all yielding to your demands and all I can say is...

Look in the mirror tomorrow morning, you will not see an angry infant deprived of a toy for poor behaviour you will see the face of a man in late middle age. Trust me on this, I'm a very patient guy who doesn't really care for drama, if you've yourself look pathetic to me then you've got trouble cause you've made a fool of yourself to a lot of people with less patience than myself. Would it really be the worst thing in the world if for the first time ever you embarked on a spot of self reflection? Just a thought.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:01 AM
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I've just seen the complete mess you and the nipple man and that weird drunk who prances around pretending to be Irish have made of the Scottish indie thread just because a decision was made that you disagreed with and for once in your life stamping your feet on the ground didn't mean all yielding to your demands and all I can say is...

Look in the mirror tomorrow morning, you will not see an angry infant deprived of a toy for poor behaviour you will see the face of a man in late middle age. Trust me on this, I'm a very patient guy who doesn't really care for drama, if you've yourself look pathetic to me then you've got trouble cause you've made a fool of yourself to a lot of people with less patience than myself. Would it really be the worst thing in the world if for the first time ever you embarked on a spot of self reflection? Just a thought.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:05 AM
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I've just seen the complete mess you and the nipple man and that weird drunk who prances around pretending to be Irish have made of the Scottish indie thread just because a decision was made that you disagreed with and for once in your life stamping your feet on the ground didn't mean all yielding to your demands and all I can say is...

Look in the mirror tomorrow morning, you will not see an angry infant deprived of a toy for poor behaviour you will see the face of a man in late middle age. Trust me on this, I'm a very patient guy who doesn't really care for drama, if you've yourself look pathetic to me then you've got trouble cause you've made a fool of yourself to a lot of people with less patience than myself. Would it really be the worst thing in the world if for the first time ever you embarked on a spot of self reflection? Just a thought.

And you manage to exceed the stupidity of your previous post?


Well done ; who'd have thought it possible.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:42 AM
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I joined the forum because I support Palace and one here there's a bit of shared experience of Croydon, South London and away grounds too.

People are always (although unevenly) interesting.

I got involved in some of the politics during the election and it's interesting to see what people "think". London is a Labour Town but once you get to leafy Surrey it's mostly blue, blue, blue. Like with religion, you don't get many converts but you do get a lot of people who don't really know exactly what it is they are well, voting for.

It doesn't really bother me if those in charge of Crystal Palace Forum sideline politics so it doesn't encroach upon "other people". But the thinking behind it is a bit worrying.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:43 AM
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I would like to think that the mods are not about their own egos nor see their role as trying to make adults act like adults.

They have tried to resolve a problem (real or perceived?) so hats off to them for being proactive, however IMO it really has not worked so it is ridiculous to suggest they should not 'cave in' as if they are the parents in all of this who need to be teaching some of us a lesson. They are mods, nothing more nothing less, and we thank them for fulfilling the role, but they are not our moral superiors and should be careful that they do not cross the line of the necessary modding that is needed from time to time and stray into giving moral direction.

I should add they deserve our praise but at times, understandably, they get things wrong. This is one of those occasions.
To address the real or perceived question, the feedback to the closing of the threads over Christmas, was overwhelmingly and unexpectedly positive. This is what has led to this trial. I actually would say it's reactive rather than proactive.

Regarding "caving in", I agree that I don't see how that applies - it's been clearly stated it's a trial. If it is judged to have worked it'll stay this way. If not, then it'll be reversed.

All I would add, is that at this stage, in terms of posters rather than posts, those who say they like the idea of a seperate forum outweigh, those that
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Given that yours has been one of the more considered responses ES, would you like to tell us (or me by PM if you prefer) why you think it hasn't worked.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:49 AM
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To address the real or perceived question, the feedback to the closing of the threads over Christmas, was overwhelmingly and unexpectedly positive.
hmmm

I would like to to know whether this was a controlled and representative sample, or just half a dozen people saying how pleased they were not to be pestered by geeky politicos when they want to carry on slagging off Benteke etc?
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:58 AM
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hmmm

I would like to to know whether this was a controlled and representative sample, or just half a dozen people saying how pleased they were not to be pestered by geeky politicos when they want to carry on slagging off Benteke etc?
I didnít even notice that they were closed. So I wasnít able to give any feedback either way.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:01 PM
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hmmm

I would like to to know whether this was a controlled and representative sample, or just half a dozen people saying how pleased they were not to be pestered by geeky politicos when they want to carry on slagging off Benteke etc?
I really don't get what you mean by a controlled and representative sample, but it's certainly wasn't the scenario you describe.

The threads weren't closed over Christmas as some sort of precursor for this forum, the idea was developed out of the positive reaction in response to closing. It wasn't some sort of test, one of the mods thought it might be nice to 'have Christmas off' and it went from the very positive reactions to that.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:04 PM
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But the thinking behind it is a bit worrying.
Indeed not quite censorship, but really appears to be a very dodgy decision to isolate brexit threads from the rest of the community, under the guise of UK politics (but nor Scotland or any other countries, like the US, that have a profound affect on UK politics and foreign policy.) The leap from closing the threads over christmas (nothing was happening anyway in Brexitland so it was really a bit pointless to close them - I didn't even notice until the new year) to shunting them off into a cupboard is hard to understand. Why didn't they just reopen them? People don't have to open the threads in GCC if they are not interested. I suspect it was for the benefit of the mods rather than users of the forum.
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I really don't get what you mean by a controlled and representative sample, but it's certainly wasn't the scenario you describe.

The threads weren't closed over Christmas as some sort of precursor for this forum, the idea was developed out of the positive reaction in response to closing. .
Positive reaction from whom? How many?

Personally I didn't like the closure but I figured anybody sad enough to think they or anybody else need a "rest" from politics ain't gonna care about a differing view.

So what you are a saying is we need to be constantly raising petitions and polls for or against anything you do or might be planning on the off chance a couple of people saying they liked or disliked something might lead to a knee-jerk and insulting sidelining?
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I didnít even notice that they were closed. So I wasnít able to give any feedback either way.
Feedback wasn't expected or invited, but those who did notice felt strongly enough to let us know their approval via messages or mentioning at games/down the pub.

Made us think that maybe there was something to more we could be doing, thoughts and idea were kicked around and the outcome is this trial.

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I really don't get what you mean by a controlled and representative sample, but it's certainly wasn't the scenario you describe.
So where did this feedback come from? Did you ask the people who actually habituated the brexit, corbyn and may threads? Or was it just the people who were offended by the mere sight of the selected threads at the top of the forum? ( Oh I've just seen it was people down the pub!!)
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So what you are a saying is we need to be constantly raising petitions and polls for or against anything you do or might be planning on the off chance a couple of people saying they liked or disliked something might lead to a knee-jerk and insulting sidelining?
No, as I suspect you well know, that's not what I'm saying at all.
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Feedback wasn't expected or invited, but those who did notice felt strongly enough to let us know their approval via messages or mentioning at games/down the pub.

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Gotta get back to work, but will check back from time to time or PM me.
Do you mind if I don't PM you? Or mention it down the pub or at the game since I don't know you from Adam or Eve?

The Mods took a decision based upon some private messages, and people they knew at the game and the pub.

What a load of piffle. That's really no way to run anything unless you just want to run the show purely for you, your mates and anybody who happens to agree with you or your mates.
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No, as I suspect you well know, that's not what I'm saying at all.
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Feedback wasn't expected or invited, but those who did notice felt strongly enough to let us know their approval via messages or mentioning at games/down the pub.

Made us think that maybe there was something to more we could be doing, thoughts and idea were kicked around and the outcome is this trial.

Gotta get back to work, but will check back from time to time or PM me.
Thanks for the explanation.

Seems bizarre to me that people would chat about thread closures in the pub, but thereís nowt so queer as folk, of course.
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So where did this feedback come from? Did you ask the people who actually habituated the brexit, corbyn and may threads? Or was it just the people who were offended by the mere sight of the selected threads at the top of the forum?
Can't speak for the other mods, but I didn't analyse it. For my own part, I certainly did hear from longer term posters in the pub though who said it felt as if they had got GCC "back".
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Can't speak for the other mods, but I didn't analyse it. For my own part, I certainly did hear from longer term posters in the pub though who said it felt as if they had got GCC "back".
ha ha ha

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Thanks for the explanation.

Seems bizarre to me that people would chat about thread closures in the pub, but thereís nowt so queer as folk, of course.
Oh come on, you once invited me to your local to specifically discuss the BBS!

Of course it comes up in conversation, especially when one's mates are BBSrs. I get all sorts of ribbing about mod decisions (usually ones I know nothing about!), it's almost a sport...
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Long as we have the roast beef thread and can snarl at Raheem, eh?
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