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Old 11-09-2013, 10:28 AM
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I'm not talking about one of those stupid phablet things. But comparing my S3 to the iPhone and you can see the screen size isn't good enough.
You say that like it's fact but it's not, it's just your opinion.

I wouldn't want a phone bigger than my iphone 5. It's big enough as it is.

And I don't have a tablet.
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bit off topic but I love my nokia lumia 920 by far the best phone I have ever had. Hope that helps
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You say that like it's fact but it's not, it's just your opinion.

I wouldn't want a phone bigger than my iphone 5. It's big enough as it is.

And I don't have a tablet.
But if they want to steal Android customers, like me, they have to realise that people won't won't to reduce the size of their screen.

They've already altered their software to look a lot more like Android, which has hooked me in, so why haven't they tried to make a radical change to the hardware? I was seriously considering changing if they had made some differences to the phone, but they haven't. I know they don't care that they've lost one potential customer, they're just praying on the stupidity of their existing customers now though.
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I wouldn't want a phone bigger than my iphone 5. It's big enough as it is.
That's what I said about my old HTC Desire. Larger screen size on Nexus 4 is brilliant.
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bit off topic but I love my nokia lumia 920 by far the best phone I have ever had. Hope that helps
1020 looks amazing. Depending on price would think about getting one to replace my camera.
The new Oppo N1 is meant to have an amazing camera too although details not released yet
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1020 looks amazing. Depending on price would think about getting one to replace my camera.
The new Oppo N1 is meant to have an amazing camera too although details not released yet
the camera is awesome and everything just seems to work right for me, if I want something it is always where I think it should be
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But if they want to steal Android customers
The thing is - they don't really want to steal android customers.

The revenue per device on IOS is many many times higher than Android.

Apple is the largest company in the world and makes 70% of it's revenue on IOS devices.

The 5c is an odd move, it really demonstrates how things have changed since Jobs died. I can not believe he would try and compete with low end phones, especially as this has potential to canabalise real iphone sales.
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The thing is - they don't really want to steal android customers.

The revenue per device on IOS is many many times higher than Android.

Apple is the largest company in the world and makes 70% of it's revenue on IOS devices.

The 5c is an odd move, it really demonstrates how things have changed since Jobs died. I can not believe he would try and compete with low end phones, especially as this has potential to canabalise real iphone sales.
Yeah, I realised after I sent it that they're probably not interested in stealing Android customers, such is their hold on the mobile device market.
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The Sensation is 2 years old.. its hardly fair comparing it against the latest phones.

The latest iteration of Android is fantastic.
That's an opinion.

Here is mine.

Android UX sucks. Every app has a different sucky way of doing things. There are very few apps on android that come close to their IOS counterparts.

There is no email client that is worth using, they all suck unless you don't need exchange support.

Every android keyboard sucks hard. Ever try and write anything of length on any android device? It's torture.
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That's an opinion.

Here is mine.

Android UX sucks. Every app has a different sucky way of doing things. There are very few apps on android that come close to their IOS counterparts.

There is no email client that is worth using, they all suck unless you don't need exchange support.

Every android keyboard sucks hard. Ever try and write anything of length on any android device? It's torture.
Having had an iPad for a while now, and an Android phone, I'm inclined to agree, and that's as an Android fanboy.

And this is what's so frustrating. I don't want an iPhone because I think the phone looks shit.
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That's an opinion.

Here is mine.

Android UX sucks. Every app has a different sucky way of doing things. There are very few apps on android that come close to their IOS counterparts.

There is no email client that is worth using, they all suck unless you don't need exchange support.

Every android keyboard sucks hard. Ever try and write anything of length on any android device? It's torture.
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They are the biggest company in the world because they defy conventional business logic. That's why whining about screen size is utterly futile. As Dave rightly points out, they couldn't really give a toss about stealing Android customers.

Though as Dave also says, think they've made a business mistake with the 5c as it is more in line with what a conventional tech company would do. That said, many people have predicted the demise of a new Apple device and been proven wrong so who knows.

The upgrades are excellent for me as I'll be moving off an iPhone 4S. Incidentally, that's another area where analysts and pundits fail; Apple knows most of their punters are locked into two-year contracts so spending excessive amounts on R&D to satiate the very small number of people who need the latest and greatest every year (or every month) makes no business sense.

Hope they abosultely continue to ignore the sceptics who whine on about a lack of innovation and ultimately take the company back into private hands to insulate themselves from the idiots on Wall Street.
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They are the biggest company in the world because they defy conventional business logic. That's why whining about screen size is utterly futile. As Dave rightly points out, they couldn't really give a toss about stealing Android customers.

Though as Dave also says, think they've made a business mistake with the 5c as it is more in line with what a conventional tech company would do. That said, many people have predicted the demise of a new Apple device and been proven wrong so who knows.

The upgrades are excellent for me as I'll be moving off an iPhone 4S. Incidentally, that's another area where analysts and pundits fail; Apple knows most of their punters are locked into two-year contracts so spending excessive amounts on R&D to satiate the very small number of people who need the latest and greatest every year (or every month) makes no business sense.

Hope they abosultely continue to ignore the sceptics who whine on about a lack of innovation and ultimately take the company back into private hands to insulate themselves from the idiots on Wall Street.
totally agree with this. The clue is in the name - 3Gs, 4s and 5s are just that; a newer version of the 3G, 4 and 5. It makes sense to customers to be either a number or an 's' person and Apple recognise that their core base will be upgrading every other year as you say Brett.

I am on a 4s and look forward to upgrading to a 5s in a couple of months.

This isn't about being an Apple fan boy, but I just don't see a single Android handset I like. They are either too big, too plastic, or just plain ugly.
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Hope they.......ultimately take the company back into private hands to insulate themselves from the idiots on Wall Street.
Market cap is $449bn. 50-100% Premium for controlling stake. I don't know who could afford that.
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Having had an iPad for a while now, and an Android phone, I'm inclined to agree, and that's as an Android fanboy.

And this is what's so frustrating. I don't want an iPhone because I think the phone looks shit.
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BTW - whilst I couldn't say that the fingerprint technology in itself is either revolutionary or innovative, it appears that once again the implementation will be. It's not about being first to market with a new idea, it's about being the first to nail it and make it useable for the masses.
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The problem with Apple, and nobody has mentioned this yet, is that their products are reaching saturation point.

That is why they are launching multiple upgrades, in order the attract a new kind of Appleist (as demonstrated by the launch of the iPad Mini). New releases will include multiple screen sizes as Apple will need to provide for those that require an iMax experience. You heard it here first!

Personally, I wouldn't go anywhere near them is because I have no desire to be locked into a specific buying habit.

My nearly two-year-old HTC Sensation XE is still going strong, and I have never expected the various software packages to be integrated. But it all works very well.

My next phone will have a 5" screen as bezels become smaller, if for no other reason than hooking up to BT Sport for the footy. The most likely recipient of my hard earned money will be the LG G2 or the Oppo N1.

Move over Apple.
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How many megapixels does the new Iphone have?

I have an Ipad and a Galaxy S4, I like both but would always choose the Galaxy over Iphone now, down to the screen size mainly.
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5 takes a while to get used to but it is a smashing phone
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