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Old 27-04-2019, 12:54 AM
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Probably the end for Bolton. Absolute disgrace what’s gone on
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Old 27-04-2019, 02:28 AM
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It's a tough one all around. My initial feelings is to not be too sympathetic to the players at this stage of the season. My first instinct was to say play out the season first.

But then again, they have no negotiating tool left without a game to play... or, you can't get blood out of a stone, and we as Palace fans know this as well as any.
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Old 27-04-2019, 02:52 AM
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Wasn't there chairman the one when they were in the Prem, that tried to bring in no relegation.
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Old 27-04-2019, 02:55 AM
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I have no strong feelings either way about Bolton as a club. But it breaks my heart to see a club folding due to the appalling distribution of money in football.
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Old 27-04-2019, 03:10 AM
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Wasn't there chairman the one when they were in the Prem, that tried to bring in no relegation.
Yes - Phil Gartside. A pretty low move but my guess is that he knew they were punching way above their weight, and relegation would hurt them more than most.

From the outside looking in, I would say that their current situation seems far more perilous compared to ours in both 2000 and 2010.
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Old 27-04-2019, 05:09 AM
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Such a sad state of affairs.
Hate seeing any club in turmoil like this. Unless we're talking about MU, Arse, Spurs, Brighton, Chelsea, L'pool, Newcastle or Man City.
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Old 27-04-2019, 06:25 AM
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Who was it that did the overspending?
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Old 27-04-2019, 09:04 AM
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It' a mystery as I'm sure Alladyce would have watched the pennies while he was their.

Hope they eventually get it sorted as Bolton fans deserve better.
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Can’t blame the players for taking this action

I spoke to a ST holder the other day. Asked him if he’d come to terms with relegation. ‘Relegation ?’ He said. ‘Not going out of business is the real challenge, relegation is fine’
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Old 27-04-2019, 09:12 AM
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I wonder how differently things would have turned out for us had we been relegated in either 2000 or 2010?
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Not sure about 2000 but 2010 would have been a disaster. We nearly went after staying up so chuff knows how close it would have got if Wednesday had scored in the 94th minute
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Will they fold, or will the league make them fulfil the fixture with a team of 16 year old academy kids???
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Will they fold, or will the league make them fulfil the fixture with a team of 16 year old academy kids???
I thought I’d read that they had a new owner ready to take the club and debts and guarantee the wages for the remainder of the season ?
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Old 27-04-2019, 09:23 AM
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Still have fits of tourettes when ever I think about Stern John at that game. So much riding on it that I felt physically sick.
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Still have fits of tourettes when ever I think about Stern John at that game. So much riding on it that I felt physically sick.
Yes. If we had lost that game my anger would have led me to find SJ and do some serious amount of damage to his right foot
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Can’t blame the players for taking this action

Really, is it not the players fault that they have been relegated . No chance of Bolton being liquidated
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It's a tough one all around. My initial feelings is to not be too sympathetic to the players at this stage of the season. My first instinct was to say play out the season first.

But then again, they have no negotiating tool left without a game to play... or, you can't get blood out of a stone, and we as Palace fans know this as well as any.
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Irrelevant. They have a contract of employment and I assume it doesn’t say ‘if we get relegated you don’t get paid anymore’
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Bolton's players are refusing to play until they are paid and now their match tomorrow has been called off.

Good on the players, as I am sure none of us would work nearly 2 months without being paid. Regardless how much you earn.

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I think they would have come out of it better had they made an official statement and said they were going to fulfill the fixtures for the fans.
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It’s not clear to me how not playing today helps them to get paid? Presumably a fixture brings in some money, for the non-playing staff as well.

Personally I’d want to fulfil the season (if only for the fans) and then take action at the end. If they haven’t been paid by May/June, then the club would probably have broken the terms of their employment contract and the PFA and EFL should be sympathetic to any Bolton player who wants to tear it up and move elsewhere.

So I do think the players shouldn’t play on indefinitely without salary, but they can take action soon, plus this gives the potential new owner another month to help.

A sad situation.
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