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View Poll Results: Who do you want as Labour leader?
Rebecca Long Bailey 5 7.46%
Lisa Nandy 18 26.87%
Keir Starmer 21 31.34%
Emily Thornberry 3 4.48%
Moo 20 29.85%
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Anyone but Nandy, please. I’d rather 30 years of Tory government if it means not having to put up with 5 of Eddie wanking all over the politics threads.
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She comes across well except, once again , the immigration open door policy, something that the northern lefties seem to have an issue with
I dont think that's fair. Her immigration policy is fine for many in the north as it is about free movement with appropriate investment into training for young people.
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Now I think it'll be Thornberry, RLB being seen as the continuity candidate will harm her with members who got a wake up call last month but the left controls enough of membership to resist any centralist/blue Labour reform that they fear Nandy and Stamer may bring. Thornberry wins by default as the compromise candidate who is neither liked nor hated by both wings of the party.
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Now I think it'll be Thornberry, RLB being seen as the continuity candidate will harm her with members who got a wake up call last month but the left controls enough of membership to resist any centralist/blue Labour reform that they fear Nandy and Stamer may bring. Thornberry wins by default as the compromise candidate who is neither liked nor hated by both wings of the party.
Tories would be delighted. May get labour party support but highly unlikely to get backing from 14 million others needed to win an election.
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I dont think that's fair. Her immigration policy is fine for many in the north as it is about free movement with appropriate investment into training for young people.
Guess we'll see in the next few months

Robot Starmer, totally lacking any charisma cant be allowed to win, and of course RLB is Corbyn mkII.
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If you want the Labour voters who voted Tory last month back there really is only one option.
The video clips they showed the Labour punters are from the hustings - not a great reflection of the candidates but interesting that Nandy comes across so well. She was my choice as the best female candidate back in December but Starmer is by far the most credible - former DPP etc. They will both do better than Corbyn and I would be happy with either.
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Tories would be delighted. May get labour party support but highly unlikely to get backing from 14 million others needed to win an election.
White van man episode will forever remind real working class voters that she isnt the general who respects and understands them . She oozes fakeness to me , and her snooty demeanour wont win back the lost voters . . She hardly endears herself to many others either. Some of her past interviews are almost in abbotts class ..
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Now I think it'll be Thornberry, RLB being seen as the continuity candidate will harm her with members who got a wake up call last month but the left controls enough of membership to resist any centralist/blue Labour reform that they fear Nandy and Stamer may bring. Thornberry wins by default as the compromise candidate who is neither liked nor hated by both wings of the party.
Never ever going to happen. And certainly not as a compromise. Firstly I’d be surprised if Thornberry makes it onto the ballot, and secondly compromise isn’t
in the party’s vocabulary at the moment.
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I dont think that's fair. Her immigration policy is fine for many in the north as it is about free movement with appropriate investment into training for young people.
You are arguing about immigration with a racist. You won't get much sense there.
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Nandy is officially on the ballot after securing the 2 unions (NUM and GMB) and 1 affiliate (Chinese for Labour).
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Knew nothing about Nandy before this contest, but I'm fairly impressed.

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It's currently between Nandy and Starmer for me
I knew a little about Nandy before the election (but not much), and have to confess that I didn't much like her because of her Brexit position. As it turns out though, she was probably right on that one.

And she has impressed me more and more as the contest has gone on. In terms of the big issues, she just seems to "get it". Her comments today on the welfare system were on the money imho (I have a fair bit of involvement with the system in my job, both on a policy level and representing claimants). She's picked up where the problems are, and is looking for sensible solutions rather than needless tribalism.

And that seems to be her m.o . Gain an understanding of the problem, and look for a solution that will actually make peoples lives better. Yes, CRs criticism that a lot of it is light on detail is true, but if the principles and instincts are right, than can be worked up in due course. And her emphasis in the Andrew Neil interview on the team she would build around her suggests that she would be looking to get people who actually know about the specific policy areas to build up the solutions, which is frankly just what we need.

So I'd be very happy if she won the contest, albeit with the slight worry that winning this time round could be a poison chalice.
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I knew a little about Nandy before the election (but not much), and have to confess that I didn't much like her because of her Brexit position. As it turns out though, she was probably right on that one.

And she has impressed me more and more as the contest has gone on. In terms of the big issues, she just seems to "get it". Her comments today on the welfare system were on the money imho (I have a fair bit of involvement with the system in my job, both on a policy level and representing claimants). She's picked up where the problems are, and is looking for sensible solutions rather than needless tribalism.

And that seems to be her m.o . Gain an understanding of the problem, and look for a solution that will actually make peoples lives better. Yes, CRs criticism that a lot of it is light on detail is true, but if the principles and instincts are right, than can be worked up in due course. And her emphasis in the Andrew Neil interview on the team she would build around her suggests that she would be looking to get people who actually know about the specific policy areas to build up the solutions, which is frankly just what we need.

So I'd be very happy if she won the contest, albeit with the slight worry that winning this time round could be a poison chalice.
Agree with all this. But someone has to win the leadership election to lose the next general election. And if it's Lisa, well done her.

If Labour is seen as a decent opposition party by the time of the next election I'll be happy enough. Not fair to expect her to win it.

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