Abuse of female pundits

[Golf Boy]

Has anyone got stats on how many women are interested in football compared to men? Also on how many men and women are interested in the women’s game.

On the pundit side, the men talk total shit anyway and I’d rather look at Alex Scott.

[KYLIE MINEAGLE]

Originally Posted by Skid Row

That would be Mel Mclaughlin. Very easy on the eye and she does know her stuff.

Chris Gayle is a big fan.

Well I never look who's back. Just got out of lockdown have we

I think you mean Steph Brantz who does the womens football not MM. Both ok but.

[SussexRed&Blue]

I think a lot of pundits get criticism anyway from some people due to their views on the game or the way they present themselves. This counts for the men and also the women involved.

There are some good women who are regular pundits on the men's game but not all of them are good like the men! I like Rachel Brown-Finnis she is good as well as Gabby Logan. Not a fan of Karen Carney or Alex Scott though.

[ExiledStirling]

Originally Posted by PeterH

I don't know why people feel they have a need to educate people on how to think.

Jesus has a lot to answer for.

[cpfc4evandeva]

Originally Posted by EdMan

I’m curious why you think women’s football doesn’t merit the status it’s being given. Is that just based on the current audience sizes?

Because it is shit?

I've tried watching the odd game and it is so obviously miles apart from the men, in terms of quality. Didn't the USA women get hammered by a boy's (as in 15 year old children) team not too long ago?

There are definitely some women's sports that are worth watching - tennis and golf spring to mind. Football is not one of them.

[Maidstoned Eagle]

Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva

Because it is shit?

I've tried watching the odd game and it is so obviously miles apart from the men, in terms of quality. Didn't the USA women get hammered by a boy's (as in 15 year old children) team not too long ago?

2017, but then you need to put it into context....have a read of this, it's from To view the link you have to Register or Login but it doesn't allow me to link it here...you'll be interested to know that Hatey Hopkins shares your view, read into that what you will.

"After the United States Women’s National Team beat the Netherlands 2 to 0 to win the World Cup in July 2019, the fans of the nation’s soccer team were delighted. It also lent serious heft to the players’ demand for pay and treatment equal to that of the U.S. Soccer mens’ teams in a lawsuit that USWNT players filed on International Women’s Day — March 8, 2019 — to which the organization’s president responded publicly:


And then, the backlash began when a chorus of people on social media began claiming that the USWNT victory was mitigated by the fact they had at one point been beaten by a team of boys under 15:




Why would the #USWNT deserve equal pay with men when they can be beaten by an under 15s boys team?

Pay on ability, reward on performance, promote on merit.

15 year old boys are more able than this team

Facts don’t care about your feelings. pic.twitter.com/iY4jziil1Z

— Katie Hopkins (@KTHopkins) July 8, 2019



In the context in which it typically appeared, people on social media (apparently piqued that they themselves are terminally unable to win any football tournament anywhere at any point) began to opine that football captain and player Megan Rapinoe ought to “humble herself” due to the purported defeat at the hands of boys. Another common take was that female athletes do not warrant salaries near those commanded by their male counterparts, pointing to the same purported defeat as proof.

People appeared to infer that just before their 2019 World Cup win, the USWNT had been handily beaten by a team of young boys. Some tweets linked to an article from April 2017, originally published by CBS Sports. That article’s headline, “FC Dallas under-15 boys squad beat the U.S. Women’s National Team in a scrimmage,” indicated that the event in question was not a match:

In preparation for two upcoming friendlies against Russia, the U.S. women’s national team played the FC Dallas U-15 boys academy team on Sunday and fell 5-2, according to FC Dallas’ official website.

It seemed that many newly self-anointed soccer pundits on social media relied on nothing more than the article’s headline and subheading to inform their views about the scrimmage between the Dallas boys’ team and the USWNT. But this article went on to describe the event as part of a structured practice undertaken primarily for the benefit and development of the boys’ team:

Of course, this match against the academy team was very informal and should not be a major cause for alarm. The U.S. surely wasn’t going all out, with the main goal being to get some minutes on the pitch, build chemistry when it comes to moving the ball around, improve defensive shape and get ready for Russia.

The game will, however, serve as a great anecdote for the kids on the FC Dallas squad to tell their grandchildren about one day. It also speaks highly of the level of academy development MLS teams are doing these days.

In context, the 2017 scrimmage between the Dallas boys’ team and the USWNT was described as a chance for the boys to learn from the women’s team. But even at that point, much of that contextual information was left out.

The U.S. Soccer Federation has a “Development Academy” program specifically for the training and conditioning of young athletes, in which FC Dallas readily participates:

U.S. Soccer’s Development Academy program is driven by the game and its players, coaches and referees. This game-centric approach allows for long-term development to occur through a deep understanding of what makes players successful around the world. As the sport of soccer grows in the United States, young players in our country need the proper environment to compete against the world’s elite. The U.S. Soccer Development Academy program provides the optimum developmental environment for the nation’s top youth soccer players, coaches and referees by emphasizing development through quality training and limited, meaningful competition. Currently, FC Dallas has seven boys Academy teams: U-12, U-12 South, U-13, U-14, U-15, U-16/17 and U-18/19. U.S. Soccer has also added a Girls’ Academy in 2017 with FC Dallas teams in the U-14, U-15, U-17 and U-19 divisions.

An April 2017 analysis published to football news site 90min.com (“Some People Think it’s Funny That the USA Women’s National Team Were Apparently Beaten by U15 Boys”) explained to American sports fans often unfamiliar with soccer that a scrimmage is not the same as a formal game. It began noting that information originally provided by the Dallas team had been re-reported elsewhere without context:

The original [2017] post is now blocked by Dallas, most likely because a nice thing about youngsters having the chance to have an informal kick-about with World Cup winners and national heroes was later twisted into an attack by banter-obsessed pages and tweeters, suggesting that even a group of U15 boys could comfortably beat what is the best women’s team in the world.

Observing that both teams were “all smiles afterwards as both sets of players happily posed for a group picture, not the utter humiliation and embarrassment some seem keen on making it,” the piece explained the manner in which such scrimmages are handled by professional athletes and teen hopefuls:

It’s imperative to state that this ‘game’ between the USWNT and Dallas boys was not really a game at all. Before the official post was blocked it was described as a ‘scrimmage’ between the two squads, an informal practice.

[…]

With many of the Dallas boys unlikely to make it all the way to professional level, when would the chance to share a pitch, even a training pitch, with a genuine global superstar come around again? The answer for nearly all of them is undoubtedly ‘never’.

The fact that the women lost the ‘game’ means literally nothing.

The only thing that needs reporting here is that some young hopeful footballers were able to meet and ‘jam’ with some very famous other footballers. If you find the alleged score-line funny, try learning the facts, step into the 21st century and just plain grow up.

American fans unfamiliar with soccer or football mistook original reporting of the April 2017 scrimmage between the USWNT and the Dallas boys’ team as a sincere and serious game, rather than what it actually was: an informal match conducted as part of a larger program to train promising young athletes, which is what it was. When the FC Dallas under-15 team originally posted about the event they noted it was a scrimmage, but later reporting neglected to add in important contextual information about the event and the program. "

[KYLIE MINEAGLE]

Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva

Because it is shit?

I've tried watching the odd game and it is so obviously miles apart from the men, in terms of quality. Didn't the USA women get hammered by a boy's (as in 15 year old children) team not too long ago?

There are definitely some women's sports that are worth watching - tennis and golf spring to mind. Football is not one of them.

Have to agree. Australia I think have one of the top 4 national teams. They show a womens A League game every Saturday, and have it on in the back ground . It's awful. Have seen better park games.

The same happened to the National team beat 7 -0 by Newcastle U17s.

I have no problem with women playing football, but lets not kid ourselves as the media and womens groups do that it is on a par with the mens game.

And as for womens AFL......

[Eagle's Nest]

Originally Posted by PeterH

I doubt many women will be queueing up to mate with Mr Nicey.

With the greatest of respect, I doubt if many men will be willing to take behavioural advice from someone who had to move to all the way to a Chilean barrio in order to find a woman who would have sex with him.

[Eagle's Nest]

Palace fans saying women's football is shit is the 20/21 season's greatest irony.

[ExiledStirling]

Originally Posted by Eagle's Nest

With the greatest of respect, I doubt if many men will be willing to take behavioural advice from someone who had to move to all the way to a Chilean barrio in order to find a woman who would have sex with him.

[Worksop Palace]

Originally Posted by Eagle's Nest

With the greatest of respect, I doubt if many men will be willing to take behavioural advice from someone who had to move to all the way to a Chilean barrio in order to find a woman who would have sex with him.

Tea spat

[Purepalace]

Originally Posted by Eagle's Nest

With the greatest of respect, I doubt if many men will be willing to take behavioural advice from someone who had to move to all the way to a Chilean barrio in order to find a woman who would have sex with him.

[Sharkba1t]

Originally Posted by Eagle's Nest

Palace fans saying women's football is shit is the 20/21 season's greatest irony.

[Jordan's Jacket]

Ex footballers be they male or female make terrible pundits it seems.

[sirdougie]

Originally Posted by PeterH

On the basis that I don't think many people give a feck about it, and it seems to being pushed on the public. When Man Utd women beat some team in the FA Cup 5-0 who on here is interested for example-

I was more interested when it was all about Arsenal vs Doncaster Belles.

I think it is the BBC being right on. Just like their annual African Player of The Year vote. What about Europe, Asia, South America. Why have just that category.

I guess my beef is with the BBC really. I also don't like how the Barcelona or Real Madrid game becomes top priority even when a Premier game hasn't even finished.

I have either misread the room, need to change my news source, or I have others sick of seeing a list of Women's international U21 fixtures high up on a football scores page.

I would also add in the urgency of everyone seeing the score between Hibernian and St Mirren above what may be happening in the Championship.

What an absolute load of bollocks. Becuase the BBC covers something that you are not interested in, but 1000s of other people are you think they are pandering to the right on brigade? If you aren't interested in women's football don't follow it. But to deny that opportunity to other people because it doesn't fit your world view just makes you sound like a sad old man. Get a life.

[Wolfnipplechips]

Women’s cricket is pretty good to watch, likewise golf and tennis and the track and field stuff is excellent.

Women’s football on the other hand is diabolical... and the goals are too big.

Alex Scott is excellent.

[cpfc4evandeva]

Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips

Women’s cricket is pretty good to watch, likewise golf and tennis and the track and field stuff is excellent.

Women’s football on the other hand is diabolical... and the goals are too big.

Alex Scott is excellent.

The bowling is pie after pie. You're right about track and field - very little difference. It's a shame that it is incredibly dull, regardless of whether the person has a cock or not.

[Wolfnipplechips]

Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva

The bowling is pie after pie. You're right about track and field - very little difference. It's a shame that it is incredibly dull, regardless of whether the person has a cock or not.

[BERT'S HEAD]

I much prefer watching women's gymnastics to the men's. There, I've said it.

[Skid Row]

Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE

Well I never look who's back. Just got out of lockdown have we

I think you mean Steph Brantz who does the womens football not MM. Both ok but.

I'm always here, just rarely post, unless I have real important information to divulge and yes, you know perfectly well we just got out of another lockdown.

As for Steph Brantz, I have never heard of her.