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Old 28-05-2020, 04:54 PM
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Out of interest, how much holidays are you encouraging them to take during this time?
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Old 28-05-2020, 04:56 PM
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My company seem to be encouraging about taking holiday while on furlough- which I am happy to do as keen to help my company as much as possible(for a number of reasons- chiefly of which is that I live only 5 mins away) and wondering how it worked as they say it will be 100% salary so does it mean gov still pays 80% and only 20% from employer - is that the idea?
That ‘only’ is a big deal if a company has a vastly reduced income.
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Old 28-05-2020, 05:33 PM
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That ‘only’ is a big deal if a company has a vastly reduced income.
Ok cool think I get it now. I was just a little confused why my company seemed to want me to take holiday now as I was unclear if the government would still pay 80% for, what would effectively be, holiday. But I presume that they must still pay the 80%
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Old 28-05-2020, 06:05 PM
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If she can work from home during quarantine then clearly you can be flexible. Otherwise she needs to take more holiday (or maybe you could offer unpaid leave).

Practically you could potentially furlough her for the return period but that’s clearly not what it is supposed to be used for, and I wouldn’t do it.

However I doubt you will see a change in the FCO position while the quarantine period remains - because it basically means no one will be able to take their holidays and they won’t be insured if they cancel.
That's what I think too...we're at minimum staff levels to tick over so everyone is key. Not been much annual leave as the intention will be to allow carry over next year & maybe even the year after to spread it out. Now its turning in to a longer term issue though, holidays are coming up and they're on the verge of having 14 days added.
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Old 28-05-2020, 06:20 PM
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Ok cool think I get it now. I was just a little confused why my company seemed to want me to take holiday now as I was unclear if the government would still pay 80% for, what would effectively be, holiday. But I presume that they must still pay the 80%
You have to think of furlough as an alteration redundancy. So you are in theory entitled to all work benefits - including holidays - of normal employment. The government is not paying you to be on holiday ; they are keeping you in employment, which includes holiday entitlement.
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Old 28-05-2020, 06:28 PM
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My brother's company have furloughed a lot of permies and kept the contractors. How is that allowed?
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My brother's company have furloughed a lot of permies and kept the contractors. How is that allowed?
Made redundant from big company after long service with the firm.

Company made claim that contractor with less than three years service had more specialised skills than myself and won case.
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Anyone feel able to advise on the following issue:

I've been working from home since early March with no end date in sight. I'm going to France in 3 weeks time to stay at my apartment and hopefully work from home there. Not sure for how long, this will partly depend on getting broadband connected there. Two questions:

1. I don't think I will ask/tell my employer that I'm visiting France and working from home in case they object. This could be a bit dodgy, what do you reckon?

2. I don't yet have broadband or phone/TV etc in my apartment. I have unlimited EU internet on my mobile. Would it be possible to use the mobile internet to connect my work laptop? And if so, is it easy to do so? I'm not too clued up on stuff like this.

Any useful advice would be much appreciated...
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Old 28-05-2020, 08:22 PM
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Anyone feel able to advise on the following issue:

I've been working from home since early March with no end date in sight. I'm going to France in 3 weeks time to stay at my apartment and hopefully work from home there. Not sure for how long, this will partly depend on getting broadband connected there. Two questions:

1. I don't think I will ask/tell my employer that I'm visiting France and working from home in case they object. This could be a bit dodgy, what do you reckon?

2. I don't yet have broadband or phone/TV etc in my apartment. I have unlimited EU internet on my mobile. Would it be possible to use the mobile internet to connect my work laptop? And if so, is it easy to do so? I'm not too clued up on stuff like this.

Any useful advice would be much appreciated...
I guess a key question in relation point 1 would be do you officially/usually work from home or in the office? I imagine if you are usually office-based they may be more inclined to know where you are during usual working hours. Also HR dept may need to be updated.
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I guess a key question in relation point 1 would be do you officially/usually work from home or in the office? I imagine if you are usually office-based they may be more inclined to know where you are during usual working hours. Also HR dept may need to be updated.
Thanks Lombardarian.

I was office based before Covid-19 but they have stated they expect us to be WFH for up to 12-18 months. Doubt it will that long but could certainly be 2-3 months. Even after Covid-19 eases, WFH has been such a success in our department, they are considering everyone to WFH 3-4 days per week.

Longer term there are residency & tax issues for me to consider, especially with Brexit looming but that is more complex and long-term planning.

For now I am just thinking about June to August. I am booking a one way ferry but don't know how long I will stay in France depending on work. My current thoughts are I won't tell work.
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Old 28-05-2020, 09:06 PM
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Thanks Lombardarian.

I was office based before Covid-19 but they have stated they expect us to be WFH for up to 12-18 months. Doubt it will that long but could certainly be 2-3 months. Even after Covid-19 eases, WFH has been such a success in our department, they are considering everyone to WFH 3-4 days per week.

Longer term there are residency & tax issues for me to consider, especially with Brexit looming but that is more complex and long-term planning.

For now I am just thinking about June to August. I am booking a one way ferry but don't know how long I will stay in France depending on work. My current thoughts are I won't tell work.
It is probably worth checking your official contract, but personally and on the face of it, without knowing the intricate details of your employment, it all sounds good to me. i guess WFH doesn't specify a specific location(e.g. Which or whose home). I certainly have colleagues who wFH from different addresses e.g. Wolverhampton one week and Bournemouth the next and never been an issue or need to declare it as far as I am aware. And I presume the small time difference, of being in France, wont effect your work?
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Anyone feel able to advise on the following issue:

I've been working from home since early March with no end date in sight. I'm going to France in 3 weeks time to stay at my apartment and hopefully work from home there. Not sure for how long, this will partly depend on getting broadband connected there. Two questions:

1. I don't think I will ask/tell my employer that I'm visiting France and working from home in case they object. This could be a bit dodgy, what do you reckon?

2. I don't yet have broadband or phone/TV etc in my apartment. I have unlimited EU internet on my mobile. Would it be possible to use the mobile internet to connect my work laptop? And if so, is it easy to do so? I'm not too clued up on stuff like this.

Any useful advice would be much appreciated...
On point 2, you are talking about turning your phone into a 'hotspot' and 'tethering' off of it. This used to be something I did for several years (including occasional work use) off of my mobile which was on the Three network. They used to be incredibly lenient with this and had no limits whatsoever, so I effectively used it as my home router and didn't have proper broadband for years. Now, I think they are more stringent in using their network like this, so my advice would be to check your contract allowances on tethering. Most networks, including Three, have limits on this sort of thing, eg 1GB a month.
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It is probably worth checking your official contract, but personally and on the face of it, without knowing the intricate details of your employment, it all sounds good to me. i guess WFH doesn't specify a specific location(e.g. Which or whose home). I certainly have colleagues who wFH from different addresses e.g. Wolverhampton one week and Bournemouth the next and never been an issue or need to declare it as far as I am aware. And I presume the small time difference, of being in France, wont effect your work?
Thanks again. One hour time difference doesn't affect work, as long as I do 37.5 hours per week and the majority are in normal office hours (I'm a Buyer for the NHS).

Unless I am missing something then as just a short/medium term plan I don't see the problem with it as long as I have good internet access (which I'll be paying for) and can return to Croydon in an emergency (very unlikely we will need to be in the office). Of course as it stands I would need to quarantine upon return to UK which could be an issue I suppose.

France wise I don't need to quarantine and I am now allowed to enter from now due to family reasons being added by the French government this week.

Anyway, thanks again, I'll leave you alone now!
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Here's a question for any experts out there. My company has been planning a " restructure" since December. Since the virus landed they've put a large number of people on furlough. They have now started collective consultation with all staff as the scale of redundancies are likely to be 150ish
Those on furlough are claiming they're disadvantaged as they aren't working and are financially compromised when voluntary redundancy is offered. Any thoughts from experts out there?
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My company has asked anyone furloughed to take the holiday earned during furlough whilst being furloughed.

And to to top it off , out of my team they have only left on a small team of around ten out of thirty five( managers pets.) Then yesterday we found out they have taken on a couple of ex seasonal workers who were willing to volunteer for nothing to do our jobs.
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On point 2, you are talking about turning your phone into a 'hotspot' and 'tethering' off of it. This used to be something I did for several years (including occasional work use) off of my mobile which was on the Three network. They used to be incredibly lenient with this and had no limits whatsoever, so I effectively used it as my home router and didn't have proper broadband for years. Now, I think they are more stringent in using their network like this, so my advice would be to check your contract allowances on tethering. Most networks, including Three, have limits on this sort of thing, eg 1GB a month.
Thanks cpfc4eva, That was the sort of thing I was hoping to do (without knowing how to do it). I am with Three, I'll look into my contract and see if it is an option.
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