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To compete in the Premier League Palace have to increase their club generated revenue which will in turn allow our spending limit on players and wages under FFP to be raised.
This highlights why the Selhurst Park Redevelopment is so important. COYP |
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It could still have a 10k capacity bringing our overall capacity close to 30k, which with the current state of Arthur is all we'll need until it's rebuilt. |
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As for it fitting. Have seen the rest of Selhurst none of it fits. Every stand is different. They were all built in totally different eras. This is no different.
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It is what will pay for the running of that expensive new Cat 1 academy every year and allow us to actually sign a couple of £20M players every four years or even a single 30M or 40M player and pay the wages. Interestingly most of the revenue from the stand will come from the prawn sandwiches with the normal fans being a 'nice' add on and just allowing more fans to attend matches. We don't get that built we may as well just **** off back to the championship because at some point with our current income and thus squad size and depth it mean we are going to go down at some point. Yes we will have a Cat 1 academy but we will struggle to pay the several million a year it costs to keep a Cat 1 academy going. That stand along with the academy is beyond critical to the future of Crystal Palace as Premier League club. I don't think having a much bigger stadium is going to make us a laughing stock quite the opposite in fact. It would give us the 11th biggest stadium in the league as opposed to the 16th. Selhurst is already a bit of a dinosaur ground anyway. It's like anyone things Selhurst is some wonderful ground anyway. The atmosphere the fans generate is what makes Selhurst what it is. Getting more fans in the ground is only going to increase that.
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Better to have a smaller stand, that needs to be built for safety issues anyway, than no new stand at all.
Your comments are just a mirror of what SP has said. But many fear it is a pipe dream. If in five years time the building hasn't started what then? That's five more years plus that promised income boost hasn't arrived. What's wrong in scaling it down from 34k to 30k and actually getting a plan approved and construction started?
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I do not see how you can even contemplate building the new stand until this pandemic is over, and hate to be negative, but that's showing no signs of going away.
So, I cannot see a way you are going to be allowed to fill a sports stadium for some time, so maybe 25% of capacity, next season, hopefully more, but I would imagine lucky to get 7/8k in at Selhurst Park, next season. The future in all ways has never been so uncertain - we have been talking about a new stadium/stand for CPFC for years on end, so I can't see anything happening in short/medium term. I know something needs to be done but we could see a lot of lower league Clubs, maybe even C'Ship ones, go to the wall, because of this terrible situation, so while CPFC should always plan to do something to Selhurst, I don't see how they could do anything about it, at present ? |
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I think you're mixing your attendance thousands with millions - but I appreciate that it was late, your time ...
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It is just a shame that we are still hamstrung by the details that any such major property development has to address - because now would be the perfect time to build it, with the stadium closed to fans probably for the next 6-18 months ... |
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Were that to be the case, there seems little sense right now in investing millions upon millions on boosting ground capacity.
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More and more clubs have stadiums that start mid 30K then get significantly bigger. That is an issue for us in staying competive. We are already one of the smallest teams in the division. It's going to get much worse with many teams having their own stadium upgrades happening. Non TV money income is the determinate between a Watford, Bournemouth, Burnley, Norwich, Stoke, West Brom, Huddersfield, Reading, Wigan and so on. All the clubs I've mentioned have a much higher likelihood of going down due to lack of resources. We are right in that bracket. That is what SP means by being like a Southampton, an Everton or a Leicester. He doesn't really mean on the pitch (though that often comes with it). All of our stands have issues with planing permission and interested parties. The main stand is the 'simplest' in that the land behind it is ours and is not residential or commercial. Not to mention the design we are using is well known and understood thus the costs and integration issues with it have been seen before by the contractor. A smaller stand is going to be a bespoke design so it is going to need the planning down again. All the planning permission, building regs, structural, and safety planning stuff and so on will all need to be redone all of the materials costs, logistics etc etc will need to be done again. Essentially chucking a load of spent money on a known quantity to redo all the work again. TFL are still going to want us to help pay for costs at Norwood Junction and parking/road management stuff. Removing a couple of 1000 seats is going to cost us way more money in the long run. Air is free and steel is cheap until you've already built something then railroaded yourself into something for decades. I don't think the Advertiser could support more than another 2000 fans being generous. Without building a far bigger stand. The Arthur and the Hol are non starters right now for multiple reasons. The only stands we can realistically sort out are the main and the Advertiser. But if you honestly the think issues we've had with Sainsburys over a bit of carpark are going to simpler than rebuilding the Advertiser then I've got a bridge to sell you.
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