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Old 22-01-2017, 08:41 PM
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Just out of interest what will leaving the SM do to this deal?
God only knows but that deal we have with European countries to supply electricity (can't remember what its called) that has already shown not to be worth the paper its written on (literally, yes really literally) has no more chance of being honoured once we're out of the EU.
We need to build our own not rely on French nukes. Energy security init.
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Old 22-01-2017, 08:53 PM
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Post after post and all the evidence shows freedom of movement and large populations doesn't affect jobs and services negatively (otherwise the USA and China would be basket cases). Yet people still come out with the same old rubbish that it does.
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Old 22-01-2017, 08:58 PM
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Don't worry our power suppliers are in good hands:

British Gas

British Gas is the UK’s biggest domestic energy supplier. It also operates the Sainsbury’s Energy brand.

However, British Gas is actually a subsidiary of Centrica, which was formed following a demerger from British Gas plc back in 1997.

Centrica is UK-owned and based.

EDF

EDF Energy is a subsidiary of the French Government-owned energy company EDF (Électricité de France) Group. Over the years it has bought UK energy companies London Electricity, SWEB, Seeboard and British Energy.

EDF was founded in 1946 and became a public company in 2004.

E.ON

E.ON is a German-owned group formed from the merger of German companies VEBA and VIAG. The group bought UK energy company Powergen back in 2002 but it wasn’t until 2007 that its UK energy operations were renamed E.ON.

Npower

Npower is a subsidiary of German energy company RWE Group. It was bought in 2002, having evolved out of National Power, later renamed npower, which had bought the likes of Calortex, Independent Energy and Midlands Electricity following privatisation.

ScottishPower

ScottishPower is a subsidiary of Spanish company Iberdrola, who bought it in 2006. The company was formed in 1990 from the South of Scotland Electricity Board. It later bought Manweb, the energy company supplying Merseyside and North Wales.

SSE

SSE (formerly known as Scottish and Southern Energy) was formed in 1998 following the merger of Scottish Hydro Electric and Southern Electric. In 2000, it bought SWALEC and it also owns Atlantic and Airtricity. It operates those brands plus Scottish Hydr
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Old 22-01-2017, 08:59 PM
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Post after post and all the evidence shows freedom of movement and large populations doesn't affect jobs and services negatively (otherwise the USA and China would be basket cases). Yet people still come out with the same old rubbish that it does.
So we don't need it then, thanks for that.
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Old 22-01-2017, 09:03 PM
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Nope. Having FOM of movement in the US, India, China, Russia etc doesn't lead to less jobs. And it wouldn't in the EU.

Total and utter myth to think more people means less jobs.
Thing I dont get is under the current system we have to allow say a Romanian Sales assistant, or Labourer or Door monitor in but say a Canadian brain surgeon or Jamaican Nurse or Australian Teacher is not automatically allowed to work in the UK
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Old 22-01-2017, 09:05 PM
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Don't worry our power suppliers are in good hands:

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As it goes, personally I don't think running utilities is a proper competitive business like say running a coffee shop. You have to buy it, there's little choice. In terms of an investment for a shareholder its risk free so accordingly I think the divi on utility shares should be controlled.
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Old 22-01-2017, 09:10 PM
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Old 22-01-2017, 09:10 PM
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One big reason why a USA FTA won't save us.(unless you read this the wrong way round.)

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Old 22-01-2017, 09:11 PM
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Don't worry our power suppliers are in good hands:

British Gas

British Gas is the UK’s biggest domestic energy supplier. It also operates the Sainsbury’s Energy brand.

However, British Gas is actually a subsidiary of Centrica, which was formed following a demerger from British Gas plc back in 1997.

Centrica is UK-owned and based.

EDF

EDF Energy is a subsidiary of the French Government-owned energy company EDF (Électricité de France) Group. Over the years it has bought UK energy companies London Electricity, SWEB, Seeboard and British Energy.

EDF was founded in 1946 and became a public company in 2004.

E.ON

E.ON is a German-owned group formed from the merger of German companies VEBA and VIAG. The group bought UK energy company Powergen back in 2002 but it wasn’t until 2007 that its UK energy operations were renamed E.ON.

Npower

Npower is a subsidiary of German energy company RWE Group. It was bought in 2002, having evolved out of National Power, later renamed npower, which had bought the likes of Calortex, Independent Energy and Midlands Electricity following privatisation.

ScottishPower

ScottishPower is a subsidiary of Spanish company Iberdrola, who bought it in 2006. The company was formed in 1990 from the South of Scotland Electricity Board. It later bought Manweb, the energy company supplying Merseyside and North Wales.

SSE

SSE (formerly known as Scottish and Southern Energy) was formed in 1998 following the merger of Scottish Hydro Electric and Southern Electric. In 2000, it bought SWALEC and it also owns Atlantic and Airtricity. It operates those brands plus Scottish Hydr
We need to repossess them for a pittance, and send them on their way with a boot up their backside
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So we don't need it then, thanks for that.
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Old 22-01-2017, 09:14 PM
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Thing I dont get is under the current system we have to allow say a Romanian Sales assistant, or Labourer or Door monitor in but say a Canadian brain surgeon or Jamaican Nurse or Australian Teacher is not automatically allowed to work in the UK
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We need to repossess them for a pittance, and send them on their way with a boot up their backside
So much for the rule of law then.

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Old 22-01-2017, 09:34 PM
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Electricity isn't water.
Never, yes never before had I realised your powers of deduction were so erudite.
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Old 22-01-2017, 09:35 PM
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Never, yes never before had I realised your powers of deduction were so erudite.
Not a deduction just pointing out an error on premise.
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Old 22-01-2017, 09:37 PM
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Not a deduction just pointing out an error on premise.
Oh go on explain, I could do with a laugh.
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Oh go on explain, I could do with a laugh.
Me too.
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Don't worry our power suppliers are in good hands:

British Gas

British Gas is the UK’s biggest domestic energy supplier. It also operates the Sainsbury’s Energy brand.

However, British Gas is actually a subsidiary of Centrica, which was formed following a demerger from British Gas plc back in 1997.

Centrica is UK-owned and based.

EDF

EDF Energy is a subsidiary of the French Government-owned energy company EDF (Électricité de France) Group. Over the years it has bought UK energy companies London Electricity, SWEB, Seeboard and British Energy.

EDF was founded in 1946 and became a public company in 2004.

E.ON

E.ON is a German-owned group formed from the merger of German companies VEBA and VIAG. The group bought UK energy company Powergen back in 2002 but it wasn’t until 2007 that its UK energy operations were renamed E.ON.

Npower

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ScottishPower

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SSE

SSE (formerly known as Scottish and Southern Energy) was formed in 1998 following the merger of Scottish Hydro Electric and Southern Electric. In 2000, it bought SWALEC and it also owns Atlantic and Airtricity. It operates those brands plus Scottish Hydr
....and an under publicised fact, China and Qatar now own our National Grid.
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One big reason why a USA FTA won't save us.(unless you read this the wrong way round.)

Who will save Germany then?
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