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Old 30-10-2019, 11:37 AM
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Luka has sent the keeper the wrong way 12 times (57%) of his 21 scored penalties. 3 of the 9 times the keeper guessed correctly Luka hit the ball high and out of reach.

I can only remember a keeper saving one of his penalties. (At home v Man City). If he's not placing the ball into the net on the keepers movement during his run up, there is definitely some good research going on by us over the opposition keepers favoured side and that information being past onto LUka before games.
Luka missed against Everton away when he went down the middle and the ball hit Pickford's legs. Probably more due to a miss-kick by Luka than a great save.
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Luka Milivojevic underlined his status as one of the Premier League's best ever penalty takers with his strike in Sunday's 2-2 draw at Arsenal.

The Serb netted his 21st spot-kick from 23 attempts in the competition, giving him a 91 per cent success rate.

That is the third-best ratio of the 12 players to convert 20 or more penalties.

And if he scores with his next two attempts, he will move level with Arsenal great Thierry Henry in second place, with an identical record.

Top penalty conversion rates:
Player Succ. penalties Penalties taken Succ. rate
Matt Le Tissier 25 26 96%
Thierry Henry 23 25 92%
Luka Milivojevic 21 23 91%

Milivojevic is getting plenty of opportunities from the spot, largely thanks to his team-mate Wilfried Zaha.

The Ivorian won his 16th Premier League penalty at the weekend, the joint-most in the history of the competition alongside Raheem Sterling and Jamie Vardy.

Since returning to the top flight in 2013/14, Palace have both won and scored more penalties than any other side, with 48 and 39 respectively.

Mixing it up
Milivojevic dispatched his spot-kick into the bottom right corner at Emirates Stadium, sending Bernd Leno the wrong way.

The Arsenal goalkeeper's guess was a reasonable one, given his opponent’s favourite area is the bottom left corner, but Milivojevic has shown he can vary his approach.

He has sent the goalkeeper the wrong way with 11 of his 23 penalties.

And, on the 12 occasions when his opponent has guessed correctly, his placement has usually been too good.

Milivojevic has only missed twice, with both failures coming when he shot down the middle.

The tactic paid off the first time he tried it, at Swansea City in December 2017.

But when he opted for the same approach the following week against Manchester City, Ederson saved.

Milivojevic converted his next four penalties, but when he next went down the middle he was again denied, this time by Everton’s Jordan Pickford.

Unsurprisingly, Milivojevic has since gone to either the left or the right with each of his subsequent 12 attempts, scoring with all of them.

Where next?

Where Luka hit the ball (9% top left):
9% 0% 17%
35% 13% 26%

If Leicester City goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel is looking for a pattern in preparation for his visit to Palace on Sunday, he may notice that Milivojevic often targets the same side twice in a row.

There have been five instances of such pairings among the Palace captain’s last 12 penalties, and he has aimed to the right on the last two occasions.

Or maybe the other way to stop his penalties is to have Milivojevic in goal for them. In a recent trick video, Palace had the Serb put on the gloves to face his own spot-kick and managed to parry the ball away.
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I thought it was more of a curved run so he was sprinting into the box as Luka struck it, to get to any potential rebounds. Like a striker curving a run to maintain pace and keep onside.
Was effective too as he was first one in the box, with all the Arsenal players stood on edge hands on hips still.

I thought the same, but rebounds are no longer allowed to be scored:

"There will be no rebounds from penalties.
Play will stop for a restart if a penalty is saved or hits the post, meaning there will be no chance to follow up and score from rebounds, meaning players will no longer need to line up on the edge of the area."

I reckon I'm on to something with this. Was Macca doing the same run last season?
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Old 30-10-2019, 03:31 PM
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I thought it was more of a curved run so he was sprinting into the box as Luka struck it, to get to any potential rebounds. Like a striker curving a run to maintain pace and keep onside.
Was effective too as he was first one in the box, with all the Arsenal players stood on edge hands on hips still.
I noticed that too. Its a good idea because if the ball rebounds out without touching another player, Luca would not be allowed to touch it again, but Mac would.
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I thought the same, but rebounds are no longer allowed to be scored:

"There will be no rebounds from penalties.
Play will stop for a restart if a penalty is saved or hits the post, meaning there will be no chance to follow up and score from rebounds, meaning players will no longer need to line up on the edge of the area."

I reckon I'm on to something with this. Was Macca doing the same run last season?
Don't think that is actually a new rule
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Don't think that is actually a new rule
Ah, yes, got mixed up with La Liga. As you were.
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Old 30-10-2019, 06:39 PM
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I thought the same, but rebounds are no longer allowed to be scored:

"There will be no rebounds from penalties.
Play will stop for a restart if a penalty is saved or hits the post, meaning there will be no chance to follow up and score from rebounds, meaning players will no longer need to line up on the edge of the area."

I reckon I'm on to something with this. Was Macca doing the same run last season?
They didn't implement that IIRC
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Great performance from the boys collectively today but I still feel Luka is the weak link in midfield at the moment. More often or not, he struggles to play a ball with the correct weight of pass on it and can be hesitant in possession which kills any momentum coupled with his painfully slow speed of thought.
On a side note - Encouraging to see the midfielders try and work the keeper today and shoot on sight more than normal.
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Great performance from the boys collectively today but I still feel Luka is the weak link in midfield at the moment. More often or not, he struggles to play a ball with the correct weight of pass on it and can be hesitant in possession which kills any momentum coupled with his painfully slow speed of thought.
On a side note - Encouraging to see the midfielders try and work the keeper today and shoot on sight more than normal.
Frustrating watching him lately because his passing has become very erratic. Still worth his place but really does need to tidy up his passing
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Personally thought he was more like the Luka of old today.
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Luka is arguably the worst passer on our team. I thought he did pretty well today, but he's 100% defense, and 0% offense.

His crosses are awful too. I don't know why someone else doesn't take them.

Deadly on penalties though, and a tough competitor. If we had two other creative midfielders, Luka would be great. When we have all defensive midfielders, it gets a bit redundant.
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Luka is arguably the worst passer on our team. I thought he did pretty well today, but he's 100% defense, and 0% offense.

His crosses are awful too. I don't know why someone else doesn't take them.

Deadly on penalties though, and a tough competitor. If we had two other creative midfielders, Luka would be great. When we have all defensive midfielders, it gets a bit redundant.

You are wrong.

Luka is very good at passing... his long range passing is impressive (The pass for WZs pen v Arsenal).
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Luka is arguably the worst passer on our team. I thought he did pretty well today, but he's 100% defense, and 0% offense.

His crosses are awful too. I don't know why someone else doesn't take them.

Deadly on penalties though, and a tough competitor. If we had two other creative midfielders, Luka would be great. When we have all defensive midfielders, it gets a bit redundant.
Yep, I'd like to see McCarthy given a chance instead, because I thought he did pretty well against West Ham in the same role. Just as good defensively and better offensively - given a run of games he could well get back to his pre injury form, which would be massive for us (imagine having a player who gives Idrissa Ghana Gueye a run for his money starting for us). Roy won't risk it, alas.

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