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Old 17-10-2015, 12:26 PM
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John Lennon, good songwriter, pretty shitty human being. Of course he was overrated, its impossible to be THAT successful and to be anything but over rated.
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Frog song > Imagine ? Mull of Kintye > Jealous guy?, you are having a laugh.

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As for The Beatles. I was always more into the Rolling Stones than The Beatles but their song catalog is so big, I cannot believe anyone does not like a least a couple of their tunes.
You are such a f~cking ignorant c~nt. There is no such choon as "Frog Song". (Or "Mull of Kintye".)
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Old 18-10-2015, 03:26 PM
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John Lennon, good songwriter, pretty shitty human being. Of course he was overrated, its impossible to be THAT successful and to be anything but over rated.
What makes him a shitty human being? I thought he had a huge impact on his followers - moving to America doesn't make you a bad person. I'm sure he annoyed traditionalists but his work was accessible to the masses. Enter the dragon was a classic.
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No doubt on the talent but I do find it very contradicting that he called for world peace but was handy with his first wife and a sh't father to Julian.

I still think Harrison did the most post-Beatles, even if it was just for saving The Life of Brian alone.......
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Old 23-10-2015, 01:41 AM
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No doubt on the talent but I do find it very contradicting that he called for world peace but was handy with his first wife and a sh't father to Julian.

I still think Harrison did the most post-Beatles, even if it was just for saving The Life of Brian alone.......
Seriously?

Lennon symbolised exactly what the peace movement was all about. The fact that such a peaceful human being met such a violent death epitomises all he stood for.
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So hitting his wife and calling McCartney a c**t would be be great examples of him being a peaceful man then?
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Jagger and Richards wrote much better stuff but werent the media darlings the beatles were, so it's not as recognised or fawned over. and they are still doing it 50 years later ..As somebody has already said ..lennon was a pretty one dimensional artist, whereas macartney is just cack... Both overated, both lived off the beatles overspill for too long .. Grossly overrated. .insanely overated actually..
Beatles overspill? I love the Stones and the camp pantomime they put on now but they haven't had a hit record since 1983. That's 20 years of hits. 30 of overspill.
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Imagine no possessions. It's easy if you try......whilst writing those lyrics in your multi-million pound mansion in Surrey at your grand piano with some talentless Japanese tart by your side.

Give me the talent of Ray Davies any day.
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Old 23-10-2015, 04:51 PM
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The man was a genius, no two ways about it. Plastic Ono Band is a glorious body of work.
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Old 24-10-2015, 08:07 PM
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Jagger and Richards wrote much better stuff but werent the media darlings the beatles were, so it's not as recognised or fawned over. and they are still doing it 50 years later ..As somebody has already said ..lennon was a pretty one dimensional artist, whereas macartney is just cack... Both overated, both lived off the beatles overspill for too long .. Grossly overrated. .insanely overated actually..

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John Lennon, good songwriter, pretty shitty human being. Of course he was overrated, its impossible to be THAT successful and to be anything but over rated.

Why do you think that John,Paul, George and Ringo remain THAT successful/popular some 55 years on - it's called sheer musical genius! We knew that were something special when they burst onto the music scene back in the 1960's.
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That is an awful song and one that harms Lennon's reputation.

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Why do you think that John,Paul, George and Ringo remain THAT successful/popular some 55 years on - it's called sheer musical genius! We knew that were something special when they burst onto the music scene back in the 1960's.
They weren't genius, they just happened upon a very good producer in Martin.
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So hitting his wife and calling McCartney a c**t would be be great examples of him being a peaceful man then?
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I can understand The Beatles music not appealing to someone's personal taste - music is a subjective thing after all; but in terms of innovation, talent, originality, cultural impact and longevity....those 4 guys were light years ahead of any band. There is music...then there's The Beatles.
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I'm thinking of selling my John Lennon memorabilia on ebay.

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He's been dead for 35 years and is still in many people's thoughts as this thread illustrates.

For what it's worth I loved the Beatles' music. In particular the stuff they did from 1963 to 1966. Songs created that will be enjoyed by generations to come.

I always felt John's input was crucial to making the Beatles what they were and in creating the songs with an edge to them.

His solo stuff I wasn't so keen on in the main, but that feeling applies to McCartney's and Harrison's work, too. They functioned best as a collective.

Whether he is overrated or not as a songwriter is an interesting argument. What cannot be argued is the deep impression he left on many of our lives and I doubt he will ever be forgotten, unlike so many making music today will be.
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