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Old 10-11-2006, 01:43 PM
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A very honest pro who should never be mentioned in the same breath as Drogba, Diouf and particularly Huckerby, who is the worst diver I've ever seen.

AJ sometimes goes down following minimal contact, but I've never seen him go down without any.
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And when you're as quick as he is, it actually doesn't take much to send you over (as anyone who had played the game to any reasonable standard would know).
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I can't believe Palace fans STILL refuse to believe AJ was/is a diver. If he had never played for us you'd all be giving him the same treatment as you do to Huckerby. It's the same situation with Owen going down in the box for England - he's one of ours so let's choose not to see it.
I don't think he is as bad as Huckerby, but there are certainly times when he accentuates his fall. The penalty he earned against Sheffield United this season was an example, as was one he won us against Charlton at home a couple of years back. For the latter, if you watch El Karkouri's challenge in slow-mo he barely touches AJ, but the way AJ twists in the air and goes to ground looks very convincing. However, as Gooders says, I've never seen him go down without any contact.

That said, AJ had plenty of stonewallers turned down while playing for us and a couple more at Everton, so it's no surprise that he goes down easily when refs refuse to give the obvious ones.
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Johnson is not a great player. When did he last score against a top club(not counting penalties) eh eh?
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He only started diving when he joined Everton!
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I don't think he is as bad as Huckerby, but there are certainly times when he accentuates his fall. The penalty he earned against Sheffield United this season was an example, as was one he won us against Charlton at home a couple of years back. For the latter, if you watch El Karkouri's challenge in slow-mo he barely touches AJ, but the way AJ twists in the air and goes to ground looks very convincing. However, as Gooders says, I've never seen him go down without any contact.

That said, AJ had plenty of stonewallers turned down while playing for us and a couple more at Everton, so it's no surprise that he goes down easily when refs refuse to give the obvious ones.
Spot on I reckon and not just because he was Palace. Another one he exaggerated was against Norwich in the 3-3 when he went down like a sack of spuds - but again, he had been shoved from behind by some big, clumsy, panicking, clodhopping defender so it was a penalty.
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I think the media use this just to have a go at someone that's worked hard and earned his right to play In the Premiership. I find It amazing people can have a go at one of the most honest professionals out there.
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Johnson is not a great player. When did he last score against a top club(not counting penalties) eh eh?
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Why the hell are you agreeing with yourself on quite possibly one of the most ridiculous posts ever?!?!

The last time he really played a top quality team was Liverpool in the prem...a game which he scored in...from a header...and he didn't dive...and your an idiot.
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A.J. IS NOT A CHEAT.
He is very,very quick.He is also probably the lightest weighing striker in the top two divisions,(10 and a half stone max.)
He runs at defenders, contact is made and the ref. decides.
He loses more decisions than he wins.
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I think you'll find AJ was alwayys clipped and due to his pace was bound to go down. That does not make him a cheat. There is a big difference between the likes of AJ an Drogba. AJ may play to win a penalty but I have never seen him fall without being touched. Big big difference.


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Why the hell are you agreeing with yourself on quite possibly one of the most ridiculous posts ever?!?!

The last time he really played a top quality team was Liverpool in the prem...a game which he scored in...from a header...and he didn't dive...and your an idiot.
Gabbiadini scored against Liverpool....and your point is?
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When did he last score against a top club(not counting penalties) eh eh?
My point is he scored against Liverpool, who are a top side, he scored twice against Liverpool this season for Everton also, neither being a penalty.

This is in reply to the above question. Why are you bringing up Gabbiadini? Your response is borderline delirious, you foolish foolish person.
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My point is he scored against Liverpool, who are a top side, he scored twice against Liverpool this season for Everton also, neither being a penalty.

This is in reply to the above question. Why are you bringing up Gabbiadini? Your response is borderline delirious, you foolish foolish person.
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What a great player we sure do miss him. With his pace and size when someone misses a tackle on him in the penalty box it is quite often a penalty
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This thread is ridiculous...i am on the 'AJ is not a diver side' but please, lets not bite to this drivel of 'when did he last score against a top side that was not a penalty'...

my argument is that he has scored 6 premiership goals this season, all of which were from open play, and he has only won 1 penalty

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I think you'll find AJ was alwayys clipped and due to his pace was bound to go down. That does not make him a cheat. There is a big difference between the likes of AJ an Drogba. AJ may play to win a penalty but I have never seen him fall without being touched. Big big difference.
Playing for a penalty? What are you talking about? It's either a foul or it's not - you can't MAKE another player foul you. If you fall over at the slightest touch 'playing for a penalty' it's not entirely honest is it? Just because it's not as blatant as Drogba (who I detest) and he played for us doesn't make it right.
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i would suggest you can 'play for a penalty' you can understand an opposing players technique and know that he may lunge in and if you are not the in greatest goalscoring opportunity you may choose to nudge the ball on or wide and take the tackle...

this is not cheating, its tactical

people from both of the argument may disagree but this is what i believe happens...take the liverpool pen against brum midweek as an example
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Johnson is not a great player. When did he last score against a top club(not counting penalties) eh eh?
off you annoying . Who the are Crewe.
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