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Old 05-08-2013, 11:39 AM
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I think in the budget, there could well be the proviso for a marque' signing.

But I would get it will be either Chamakh or Bent, certainly not both..
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I guess if we are seriously in for him, it all comes down not to this year's wages but whether he would take a significant wage reduction if we were relegated. Saying all that - let's say we are prepared to spend 25k per week on a top class striker such as Glenn Murray - giving Bent 65k over 3 years represents a further 6m.

If we stay up its instantly worth it but even if we go down, surely with a striker such as him we would be favourites to bounce immediately back up. I would expect Darren Bent to score perhaps 40 goals in the Championship.

I do feel that Steve Parish is beginning to judge every single player on his individual merits etc and what he can offer us at each level etc.
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I'm far from a pessimist but I really can't see us signing Bent, despite Pauldrulez confirming our interest. Just seems to be a player with a record far too good for little old Palace! Signing Chamakh and Bent along side Gayle could really see us causing problems this season. Hopefully for once our excitement is to be worthwhile!
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Rhynoeagle - Brazil world cup .... Darren Bent needs to go to a team that will build around him and let him really shine. If we can offer him that ... who knows.
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I'm far from a pessimist but I really can't see us signing Bent, despite Pauldrulez confirming our interest. Just seems to be a player with a record far too good for little old Palace! Signing Chamakh and Bent along side Gayle could really see us causing problems this season. Hopefully for once our excitement is to be worthwhile!
Thats why i think it will be Bent or Chamakh, neither of them OR Murray can play the wider role so we shall see.
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Rhynoeagle - Brazil world cup .... Darren Bent needs to go to a team that will build around him and let him really shine. If we can offer him that ... who knows.
Fulham, Berbatov is the king there, so where does Bent play?

It is our trump card, IF and how much does Bent desire the WC in Brazil?
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Bent would be amazing and as Tooting lad, he may well want to come home to his local club. Or would that be AFC Wimbledon? However, if we blow the budget on him and it means we can't afford to get in a much needed defender as well as a striker, I'd rather get in Chamakh and Granqvist. Yep, Bent gives you guaranteed goals. But AJ scored about 21 goals last time around in the Prem and we still went down. We need balance in the squad.

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Fulham, Berbatov is the king there, so where does Bent play?

It is our trump card, IF and how much does Bent desire the WC in Brazil?
If Newcastle do not get the Lyon striker then Bent will go there IMO but does he like or dislike the North East - not sure what he felt when up there with Sunderland.
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They are getting Remy on loan from QPR.
They are getting Bent, Remy & Bafetimbi Gomis!!! Hardball

Just out of interest when Harry said Remy would cost 2m does he mean as a signing on fee! Far out - so are Newcastle paying 2m + 50% wages?
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Newcastle have got Cisse, Gomis looks to be heading there likewise Remy on loan.

Fulham have got Berbatov.

Palace would be ideal for him if he really wants to get goals to boost his chances of making the England squad in Brazil. And let's be honest a striker's goals is what gets him into the England team.

I've heard he wants the wage he's currently on at Villa however which is our stumbling block I'd imagine.

We do need someone experienced in this league, the choice is do we go for this type of signing or do stick to our policy of signing players under 26 for fees. Personally I'd prefer we got somebody like Paddy Madden for a lot cheaper and some quality defenders in. But Steve Parish knows his budget a lot more than me. Regardless he'd be a cracking for the majority of teams in this league.
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Personally I'd prefer we got somebody like Paddy Madden for a lot cheaper and some quality defenders in. .
I guess the problem is that we've already made that kind of signing in Dwight Gayle, the need is for someone experienced, with some kind of track record in this league or top flight level elsewhere in Europe. I would be really surprised if Bent came though due to wages.
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I've heard he wants the wage he's currently on at Villa however which is our stumbling block I'd imagine.
That is an issue he has with Villa.

Villa are legally contracted to pay Bent his salary for another 2 years. In order to avoid that they need him to move. If we only offer half of what he is currently on, then he may accept a pay-off of the other half from Villa, or sit out his contract there.

If Villa don't want him then surely it is better to pay him 3m over 2 years in a contract settlement than to pay him 6m to sit on their bench?

Chances are Villa will want that 3m in the fee of any club buying him, but ulimately will anyone pay it? May be a case of who blinks first but Villa could be stuck with an expensive asset they no longer want, draining their budget which we know has been reduced in recent years.
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Bent needs 10 golden opportunities to Score a single goal, providing the team can create enough opportunities we will get a return. My father in law is a Sunderland fan, he cannot stand him, he wastes too many chances. He is not clinical enough. For the right wages and price I think it may be worth the gamble. But fear he will be an expensive flop.
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Don't get me wrong I would love to see this happen but I really can't see it.

Chamakh will come in but I reckon that is about it. We certainly will not get both
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Bent needs 10 golden opportunities to Score a single goal, providing the team can create enough opportunities we will get a return. My father in law is a Sunderland fan, he cannot stand him, he wastes too many chances. He is not clinical enough. For the right wages and price I think it may be worth the gamble. But fear he will be an expensive flop.
It's funny because my friend who supports Sunderland is equally keen to say how poor he is. Funnily enough his assessment of him has changed quite a lot since he walked out on Sunderland for Villa!
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Bent needs 10 golden opportunities to Score a single goal, providing the team can create enough opportunities we will get a return. My father in law is a Sunderland fan, he cannot stand him, he wastes too many chances. He is not clinical enough. For the right wages and price I think it may be worth the gamble. But fear he will be an expensive flop.
Sorry just dont buy that - Sunderland hate him because he left them for Villa period - he was awesome for them. He played 63 times and scored 36 goals.

your suggestion that he needed 360 golden opportunities i.e. roughly 6 per match is just not accurate, but if he manages to get into positions which give him 6 golden opportunities per game and he manages to convert them at a ratio of 0.57 goals per game then he can waste as many of the rest that he wants!
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That is an issue he has with Villa.

Villa are legally contracted to pay Bent his salary for another 2 years. In order to avoid that they need him to move. If we only offer half of what he is currently on, then he may accept a pay-off of the other half from Villa, or sit out his contract there.

If Villa don't want him then surely it is better to pay him 3m over 2 years in a contract settlement than to pay him 6m to sit on their bench?

Chances are Villa will want that 3m in the fee of any club buying him, but ulimately will anyone pay it? May be a case of who blinks first but Villa could be stuck with an expensive asset they no longer want, draining their budget which we know has been reduced in recent years.


Steve's confirmed the interest so I imagine what you've said above are the ways we'll be looking to buy him. But I do know for a fact that Darren Bent doesn't want a decrease in his weekly wages.
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