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Old 02-10-2019, 10:56 AM
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:04 AM
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:02 PM
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6 game ban? Misses our game

Personally, I think Stirling should also get a 6 game ban for defending him. Zero tolerance for racists and their enablers.
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Have a feeling it probably won't actually happen until after our game...
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I used to get called Johnny Bravo in my last job (by both black and white people). Is this the same thing?
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It is simple. Racism is an underlying, frequently sub conscious product, which many of us will not be aware of but fuel through our apathy or bias.

This tweet, the image used is all about the colour of the skin being the subject matter - when on earth does someone compare white people like this, when there are no other redeemable visual similarities. It's just fuelling the focus on the colour of a black person's skin, their difference, it may not be mean spirited, or critical - but it is racism.
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It's just fuelling the focus on the colour of a black person's skin, their difference, it may not be mean spirited, or critical - but it is racism.
You make it sound like a black person should be ashamed or embarrassed by the color of their skin.
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I used to get called Johnny Bravo in my last job (by both black and white people). Is this the same thing?

I used to play in a majority black football team... they used to call a player “Rodney”. I thought it was because he was a bit slow... so they named him after Rodney from Only Fools And Horses... I found out later, it was because he hit a white player... and the players brothers/teammates gave him a kicking... the manager said he looked like Rodney King being beaten by cops.
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Look around on the Internet a bit. There are a lot of black people who were offended by it. I think it was on the BBC's Facebook Post on the story that I saw a lot of black people expressing their offense. And a depressing number of white people dismissing it as 'banter'.
For some reason there's a lot of people out there determined to deny that racist things are racist
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For some reason there's a lot of people out there determined to deny that racist things are racist

Or... some people just have differing views (which happens on pretty much every subject)
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For some reason there's a lot of people out there determined to deny that racist things are racist
Like Mendy himself you mean?
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Absolutely. The rush of people to defend the tweet is slightly more worrying than the tweet itself.
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It is simple. Racism is an underlying, frequently sub conscious product, which many of us will not be aware of but fuel through our apathy or bias.

This tweet, the image used is all about the colour of the skin being the subject matter - when on earth does someone compare white people like this, when there are no other redeemable visual similarities. It's just fuelling the focus on the colour of a black person's skin, their difference, it may not be mean spirited, or critical - but it is racism.
I’m sorry but I beg to differ. Racism isn’t about highlighting the distinction between people’s skin colour or different shape body parts. Ethnic variations are something that people can be proud of and should be celebrated - red hair, big lips, afros, mixed race skin, big blue eyes, big arse, whatever.

Racism is prejudice, discrimination and abuse directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that their race is inherently inferior.

If we scream racist every time someone mentions skin colour we blur the lines between the vile bigots that truly believe in racial superiority and those that enjoy and indulge in the joys of multi culturalism
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I’m sorry but I beg to differ. Racism isn’t about highlighting the distinction between people’s skin colour or different shape body parts. Ethnic variations are something that people can be proud of and should be celebrated - red hair, big lips, afros, mixed race skin, big blue eyes, big arse, whatever.

Racism is prejudice, discrimination and abuse directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that their race is inherently inferior.

If we scream racist every time someone mentions skin colour we blur the lines between the vile bigots that truly believe in racial superiority and those that enjoy and indulge in the joys of multi culturalism
Im glad youve pointed out to them the official definition, cos some of them think they wrote the dictionary.
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For some reason there's a lot of people out there determined to deny that racist things are racist
Like Rahim Sterling?
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...before you chastise me i do find the tweet highly awkward..i actually cant believe that business (spanish foodstuffs wasnt it) is allowed to run with that logo! Id feel more insulted by the 'big lips' part of the image TBH.

but if Sterling doesnt feel offended, well, where does that leave it all?
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...before you chastise me i do find the tweet highly awkward..i actually cant believe that business (spanish foodstuffs wasnt it) is allowed to run with that logo! Id feel more insulted by the 'big lips' part of the image TBH.

but if Sterling doesnt feel offended, well, where does that leave it all?
So the definition of whether something is racist all comes down to whether Raheem Sterling is personally offended?
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So the definition of whether something is racist all comes down to whether Raheem Sterling is personally offended?
Quite. And it's not as though he doesn't have a vested interest considering the team he is highly committed to would be disadvantaged by a key player being banned and if there was any disruption between the group. He quite rightly won't want to cause any division.
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I am uncomfortable that if you have a difference of opinion, there is the insinuation that you’re racist or a wrong un.

We live in a very binary world.
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