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Old 02-08-2020, 08:28 AM
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Old 02-08-2020, 10:27 AM
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Tory MP and ex-minister arrested on rape and sexual assault charges.
Interesting how some media sources - the London Evening Boris leading the way - only mention a man in his 50s; other media sources say it wouldn't be right to name him but all media sources are quite happy to publish Prince Andrew's name. One law for the Tory party, one law for royalty? Surely some mistake?
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Old 02-08-2020, 10:29 AM
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Tory MP and ex-minister arrested on rape and sexual assault charges.
'also reported that Tory chief whip Mark Spencer and Commons leader Jacob Rees-Mogg had previously been made aware of the allegations. Sources said Mr Spencer did not realise the "magnitude" at the time and did not believe a sexual assaut had been disclosed to him.'



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So what exactly of the allegations he was made aware were not of a sexual nature and worthy of the tag 'allegations' ? What ******* BS and how typically Tory.
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Old 02-08-2020, 11:30 AM
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'also reported that Tory chief whip Mark Spencer and Commons leader Jacob Rees-Mogg had previously been made aware of the allegations. Sources said Mr Spencer did not realise the "magnitude" at the time and did not believe a sexual assaut had been disclosed to him.'



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So what exactly of the allegations he was made aware were not of a sexual nature and worthy of the tag 'allegations' ? What ******* BS and how typically Tory.
Why typically Tory ?
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Old 02-08-2020, 11:39 AM
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Why typically Tory ?
Dishonest, hypocritical, self serving, you know, all the usual stuff.
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Old 02-08-2020, 11:44 AM
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Dishonest, hypocritical, self serving, you know, all the usual stuff.
So same as Labour , Liberal etc
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Old 02-08-2020, 11:47 AM
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So same as Labour , Liberal etc
Nope.

Remind me again. Which is the party of law and order and family values?
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Yes, in 2017, but had it reinstated for the no confidence vote in Teresa May, then removed again when he was formally charged.

So they even managed to **** that up
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:24 PM
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Why typically Tory ?
A Tory mp is potentially up on a rape charge & you try and squirm around it? F off.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:27 PM
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A Tory mp is potentially up on a rape charge & you try and squirm around it? F off.
It is quite insulting reading your ridiculous response . Rape is a hideous crime but my point was , why the typical Tory comment . You should learn how to have a proper discussion on here with being abusive .
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:29 PM
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Rape is a hideous crime but my point was , why the typical Tory comment .
Which I have answered.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:31 PM
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It is quite insulting reading your ridiculous response . Rape is a hideous crime but my point was , why the typical Tory comment . You should learn how to have a proper discussion on here with being abusive .
Your first response was to go on the defensive and whataboutery. It's there in black and white.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:34 PM
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Your first response was to go on the defensive and whataboutery. It's there in black and white.
Defensive ? No idea what you are talking about
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:35 PM
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Which I have answered.
Are not all parties in favour of Law and Order and Family values .
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:38 PM
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Defensive ? No idea what you are talking about
Your first response was to go into bat for your beloved Tory party. Only when you were pulled up on it did you criticise the alleged crime.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:40 PM
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Your first response was to go into bat for your beloved Tory party. Only when you were pulled up on it did you criticise the alleged crime.
I vote Tory do i ? Oh thankyou for telling me . My point ( and you have successfully confirmed it ) , is that one mans alleged hideous crime is being used as political point scoring by some .
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My point ( and you have successfully confirmed it ) , is that one mans alleged hideous crime is being used as political point scoring by some .
It was you that said 'So same as Labour, Liberal etc' and you're trying to take the moral high ground about political point scoring? I'm not a fool, despite looking and acting like one.

I don't give a shit which party he's from. All I care about is that a potentially dangerous rapist gets locked up. This is a thread about the Tory party. Where else would it be discussed? Same as that sicko Elphicke who got done for his sexual assaults the other day.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:56 PM
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I vote Tory do i ? is that one mans alleged hideous crime is being used as political point scoring by some .
It was the the response to the alleged crime, by senior Tories, which was being criticised.

Not a good week for the party after the Elphicke conviction.
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Well i do feel all, Political Parties are the same , they are generally career Politicians looking after their own interests . Do not recall a time when both Conservative and Labour have such inept politicians . Just do not agree with tarring a whole party because of an individuals actions , same as i would respond if it happened to a Labour MP .
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It was the the response to the alleged crime, by senior Tories, which was being criticised.

Not a good week for the party after the Elphicke conviction.
As we can't name the Tory mp currently in the news, could someone help me out with this bit from the BBC article regarding Elphicke please:

"He was suspended by the Conservatives when "serious allegations" were passed to police in November 2017, but the whip was restored ahead of a confidence vote against then-Prime Minister Theresa May in 2018.
He was again suspended after being charged with three counts of sexual assault on 22 July 2019."

I've never really understood this whip business. It looks like he was suspended due to the sexual assault charges, but let back in under the door as he would vote favourably in the 'confidence vote' before getting the boot again. Is that correct? Now I know that the Tories will cut deals with anyone to get their way (DUP) but did they really lift the suspension of a sex case to try and get the result they wanted? If so, why isn't more being made of this? It's disgusting.
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