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Old 15-04-2021, 11:58 PM
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Old 16-04-2021, 12:01 AM
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Belongs to England. Discuss.
The good Friday agreement (Belfast treaty) relinquished ownership decades ago. Apart from that you might have had a point if we were in the 1980s.
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The good Friday agreement (Belfast treaty) relinquished ownership decades ago. Apart from that you might have had a point if we were in the 1980s.
Can't Westminster, England not govern if we want? Go in there with the troops. Apaches, air strikes if necessary. Always came across to me that England owns Scotland and Wales too lol
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Old 16-04-2021, 05:28 AM
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Belongs to England. Discuss.
England isn't a political entity, with no independent form of governance, as such it cannot own territory, other than as part of the Union, which is a conglomerate of England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales.

Attempts to 'own' Northern Ireland or divest ourselves of North Ireland are incredibly problematic.
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The British Government has confirmed that it won’t deliver on it's promise to Sinn Fein to introduce an Irish language act for Northern Ireland at this stage.

The promise by Brandon Lewis last year led to the restoration of the Stormont Assembly following the resignation of Arlene Foster.
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Old 29-03-2022, 04:04 PM
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Old 29-03-2022, 04:59 PM
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The British Government has confirmed that it won’t deliver on it's promise to Sinn Fein to introduce an Irish language act for Northern Ireland at this stage.

The promise by Brandon Lewis last year led to the restoration of the Stormont Assembly following the resignation of Arlene Foster.
It is no surprise but I sense that after the govt threw the DUP under the bus with the protocol, (which they can't back out of without repercussions) they would refuse to power-share after the upcoming elections, where Sinn Fein are likely to get 1st minister.
If the DUP now refuse to power share then Lewis could impose the Irish language Bill from Westminster - so it is more that he is withholding the bill temporarily to beat them with.
The protocol remaining intact and a power sharing executive are priorities but eventually it will all come
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This is a very significant point. Northern Ireland as an entity was constructed with the primary purpose of enabling Unionists to rule over all other factions. So any scenario where they have to submit to any other party is an existential crisis for Unionism, hence the current attempts to bring back bombings, paramilitary actions, violence against nationalists. And the UK government is steadfastly ignoring all threats.

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Old 31-03-2022, 09:23 AM
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The DUP turn up, register, then bugger off. They are able to collect their wages now, without working. How can that be right?
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The DUP turn up, register, then bugger off. They are able to collect their wages now, without working. How can that be right?
The other lot don’t even bother to turn up to the uk Parliament in the first place and still get expenses.
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Old 15-05-2022, 05:30 AM
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The other lot don’t even bother to turn up to the uk Parliament in the first place and still get expenses.
This was a story that started with a claim that Sinn Fein mps claim salaries from Westminster. Despite being accepted as truth by the right wing press, it wasn't.
It is true that some expenses are claimed as Sinn Fein require representation in discussions e.g. peace process, stormont executive, etc but only for out of pocket expenses. No Sinn Fein MP is paid for any Westminster work.


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Belongs to England. Discuss.
Do you similarly think Scotland and Wales 'belong to England'?
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