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Old 10-06-2021, 07:10 AM
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Sexual harrassment "normalised" in schools say OFSTED

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It found around nine in 10 of the girls spoken to by inspectors said that sexist name-calling and being sent unwanted explicit pictures or videos happened "a lot" or "sometimes".

Children said sexual violence typically occurred in unsupervised spaces outside of school, like parties or parks.

Pupils in several schools said harmful sexual behaviour happens at house parties, without adults present, and that alcohol and drugs are often involved.
Now, I do wonder what school these people went to, but they seem to think that this adolescent sex stuff is brand new. I went to school in the 80's and 100% this was exactly the same, if not worse, than what they are saying now. The only difference is that nobody had a smart phone and the internet so the naked selfies would be flashing I guess, and the porno a good old copy of Razzle.

I can only assume from this that poor Chief inspector Amanda Spielman didn't get fingerbanged at a school disco.

EDIT sorry about the spelling error in the title, oh well.
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I can only assume from this that poor Chief inspector Amanda Spielman didn't get fingerbanged at a school disco.
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Now, I do wonder what school these people went to, but they seem to think that this adolescent sex stuff is brand new. I went to school in the 80's and 100% this was exactly the same, if not worse, than what they are saying now...
The fallacy (pun intended) of your observation is that you are harking back to a time that was 4 decades ago.

There are a hell of a lot of behaviours that were overlooked, tolerated, accepted, call it what you will, in the 80's that we have either eliminated or are a long way down the road to getting rid of, where as it seems in this area 'we' have been been severely lacking.

It goes without saying that educational establishments in 2020's UK should be safe places where all pupils should be able to study in an environment free of harassment.
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It goes without saying that educational establishments in 2020's UK should be safe places where all pupils should be able to study in an environment free of harassment.
You'd think so, wouldn't you, but apparently it does need to be said.
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Now, I do wonder what school these people went to, but they seem to think that this adolescent sex stuff is brand new. I went to school in the 80's and 100% this was exactly the same, if not worse, than what they are saying now. The only difference is that nobody had a smart phone and the internet so the naked selfies would be flashing I guess, and the porno a good old copy of Razzle.

I can only assume from this that poor Chief inspector Amanda Spielman didn't get fingerbanged at a school disco.

EDIT sorry about the spelling error in the title, oh well.
Normalised by posters such as you on the BBS too. Seriously, what point are you actually trying to make?
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I do wish reports like this wouldn’t conflate name calling with more serious acts.

There’s some very sleight of hand use of statistics in this article clearly designed to make a serious issue appear more widespread than it may well be.
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The fallacy (pun intended) of your observation is that you are harking back to a time that was 4 decades ago.

There are a hell of a lot of behaviours that were overlooked, tolerated, accepted, call it what you will, in the 80's that we have either eliminated or are a long way down the road to getting rid of, where as it seems in this area 'we' have been been severely lacking.

It goes without saying that educational establishments in 2020's UK should be safe places where all pupils should be able to study in an environment free of harassment.
Yes, they should be. But, and not going into details, I know from bitter experience (still ongoing) that one particular school has not taken it seriously and has attempted to brush it under the carpet. Luckily, the Police put a stop to that. It happens, too much.
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I do wish reports like this wouldn’t conflate name calling with more serious acts.

There’s some very sleight of hand use of statistics in this article clearly designed to make a serious issue appear more widespread than it may well be.
From the actual Ofsted report. Widespread enough for you?

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The girls who responded to our questionnaire indicated that, in order of prevalence, the following types of harmful sexual behaviours happened ‘a lot’ or ‘sometimes’ between people their age:

Non-contact forms, but face-to-face:

sexist name-calling (92%)

rumours about their sexual activity (81%)

unwanted or inappropriate comments of a sexual nature (80%)

Non-contact forms, online or on social media:

being sent pictures or videos they did not want to see (88%)

being put under pressure to provide sexual images of themselves (80%)

having pictures or videos that they sent being shared more widely without their knowledge or consent (73%)

being photographed or videoed without their knowledge or consent (59%)

having pictures or videos of themselves that they did not know about being circulated (51%)

Contact forms:

sexual assault of any kind (79%)

feeling pressured to do sexual things that they did not want to (68%)

unwanted touching (64%)

These findings are strongly supported by existing research into harmful sexual behaviour between peers.
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Normalised by posters such as you on the BBS too. Seriously, what point are you actually trying to make?
Report about sexual harassment in schools trivialised buy a poster with a track record of misogynistic posts. I can't see any wider points to draw.
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Report about sexual harassment in schools trivialised buy a poster with a track record of misogynistic posts. I can't see any wider points to draw.
Apart from the fact you don’t know the difference between “by” and “buy”?

But yeah, GB’s idiot bro is up to his old tricks again
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I can only assume from this that poor Chief inspector Amanda Spielman didn't get fingerbanged at a school disco.
and yet you complain when people call you a misogynist.
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Apart from the fact you don’t know the difference between “by” and “buy”?

But yeah, GB’s idiot bro is up to his old tricks again
Having not seen this poster to start, and just the original post, you can only imagine my shock when I saw who started it.

It's all pretty horrifying, and I hope this stops stuff like this happening before the time my daughter is old enough to experience it.
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But yeah, GB’s idiot bro is up to his old tricks again
Obviously I do know the difference - really not sure what happened there!
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The fallacy (pun intended) of your observation is that you are harking back to a time that was 4 decades ago.

There are a hell of a lot of behaviours that were overlooked, tolerated, accepted, call it what you will, in the 80's that we have either eliminated or are a long way down the road to getting rid of, where as it seems in this area 'we' have been been severely lacking.

It goes without saying that educational establishments in 2020's UK should be safe places where all pupils should be able to study in an environment free of harassment.
My point is that they seem to think this is a new thing, when it definitely isn't.

Good luck in trying to stop 15 year old Callum from trying to get into 14 year old and drunk Emma's knickers.
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My point is that they seem to think this is a new thing, when it definitely isn't.

Good luck in trying to stop 15 year old Callum from trying to get into 14 year old and drunk Emma's knickers.
Actually, yes, we should be teaching 15 year old Callum about consent.
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My point is that they seem to think this is a new thing, when it definitely isn't.
There’s certainly new aspects. From flurries of non consensual dick pics to the power of social apps for spreading rumours, the internet catalyses loads of this stuff.
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