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Old 14-05-2022, 09:25 AM
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East Africa drought: 'The suffering here has no equal'

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Amazing how the capitalist global system can put billions in to weapons for Ukraine because it suits their interests (they donít give a shit about the people of Ukraine), and yet nothing is done about people starving and having malnutrition.
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Old 14-05-2022, 09:56 AM
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Not disputing your point about weapons for Ukraine, but Kenya could also do with getting it's own house in order...

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Old 14-05-2022, 11:27 AM
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Amazing how the capitalist global system can put billions in to weapons for Ukraine because it suits their interests (they don’t give a shit about the people of Ukraine), and yet nothing is done about people starving and having malnutrition.
The main thing they need atm in Africa cannot be provided by "the capitalist global system" or even whatever utopian system you aspire to
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Old 14-05-2022, 11:34 AM
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Amazing how the capitalist global system can put billions in to weapons for Ukraine because it suits their interests (they donít give a shit about the people of Ukraine), and yet nothing is done about people starving and having malnutrition.
Yes. Imagine the hysteria if the UK or US were to give money and provisions to dark-skinned people in Africa. That's a fairly large chunk of the reason these people are ignored.

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Old 14-05-2022, 11:38 AM
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The main thing they need atm in Africa cannot be provided by "the capitalist global system" or even whatever utopian system you aspire to
Nothing we can do.
So that's ok then.
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Yep, how dare the capitalist global system deprive East Africa of rain.
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Nothing we can do.
So that's ok then.
It would likely be easier to do something if one of the key regions for wheat etc wasnít currently experiencing a war.
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Yep, how dare the capitalist global system deprive East Africa of rain.
Is this a whoosh?
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Amazing how the capitalist global system can put billions in to weapons for Ukraine because it suits their interests (they donít give a shit about the people of Ukraine), and yet nothing is done about people starving and having malnutrition.
Ukraine is central to global food security. They warned about this at the outbreak of the war.
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Amazing how the capitalist global system can put billions in to weapons for Ukraine because it suits their interests (they donít give a shit about the people of Ukraine), and yet nothing is done about people starving and having malnutrition.
Of course people and governments care. Kenya has always received a lot of aid (and support generally) from the Uk due to its history. In fact, if you go back some years, there was almost too much (relative to other countries) and the Brit Embassy in Nairobi redistributed to other east african countries. The other countries in EA are in a much worse state than Kenya (and I am biased in that i love the place). Sadly these droughts are pretty common place now, due to global warming i guess
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Amazing how the capitalist global system can put billions in to weapons for Ukraine because it suits their interests (they donít give a shit about the people of Ukraine), and yet nothing is done about people starving and having malnutrition.
You are correct in that the West, Middle East oil powers and Asian developed countries must provide more help to developing countries in Africa and Asia to get through this food crisis. It would also help if Mr Putin would stop bombing Odessa and trying to cut off the Ukrainian ports so that one of the granaries of the world can export wheat.
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You are correct in that the West, Middle East oil powers and Asian developed countries must provide more help to developing countries in Africa and Asia to get through this food crisis. It would also help if Mr Putin would stop bombing Odessa and trying to cut off the Ukrainian ports so that one of the granaries of the world can export wheat.
Agreed but longer term the infrastructure has to be put in place to allow more self sufficiency. Supply of water where possible. Look at the map on the BBC article is it possible to use the lake as a water supply with the right investment in pumps pipe work etc.
The point has been made many times before. Certainly eliviate the starvation now but investment to provide a long term solution is just as important..
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Yep, how dare the capitalist global system deprive East Africa of rain.
No but we have a global system that can provide hundreds of billions for arms but not the far smaller amount it would take to feed everyone.
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Of course people and governments care. Kenya has always received a lot of aid (and support generally) from the Uk due to its history. In fact, if you go back some years, there was almost too much (relative to other countries) and the Brit Embassy in Nairobi redistributed to other east african countries. The other countries in EA are in a much worse state than Kenya (and I am biased in that i love the place). Sadly these droughts are pretty common place now, due to global warming i guess
And yet it would cost a fraction to provide food and that doesnít happen. Donít really care that much do they.
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