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Old 27-07-2022, 05:00 AM
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2022-23 Ongoing thread

Welcome everyone to the new season of the Crystal Ball - a chance for you to show that you have your finger on the pulse of Palace results.

In case you forgot, here's how it works:
AT some point before a game, someone will start a new thread - you don't need to wait for us to do so; feel free to start your own. In the thread you post a prediction of the score of the Palace match. You can also predict the scorers, and the attendance. After the match, our tireless team tally the totals.

Points are scored for:
1. Correctly predicting the score of the match = 3 pts Additionally, if you correctly predict the score (not just the result), you will also get 1 point for each scorer you correctly predict.
2. Correctly predicting the result of the match but with the wrong score = 1 pt
3. Closest to predicting the attendance figure = 2 pts. Additionally, everyone whose prediction is within 100 gets 1 point (therefore 3 points if you were closest and within 100). If you are within 101-200 you will get a bonus point. (A bonus point only counts at the end of the season in the event of a tie).

Cup matches are based on the result of the match before any penalties. Therefore if the match goes to penalties then the match is judged to be a draw, regardless of who wins the shootout.

Please note the latest allowable time to post predictions is a minute prior to kick-off time. However, for an attendance punt or the scorers to be valid, the post must be made at least an hour before the kick off.

There are also pre-season and mid-season final position prediction threads and first and last six games Kiwicumulators that can score points. Furthermore, the Crystal Ball scoring team may, purely at their own discretion, award bonus points on other occasions - for example, honestly handing back points you didn't earn scored a bonus in the past.
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I'm announcing a change in one of the rules from last year.

The Crystal Ball team has had a long discussion about the practice of awarding four points for a 0-0 draw. The logic when this rule was first introduced was that 0-0 couldn't get extra points for a scorer so they got a point - some said it was for predicted that the scorer was "No-one".

The problem with this logic is that if you correctly predict 1-1, you can get a maximum of two points for scorers but if you predict 2-3, you can get five points for scorers. Why is there compensation for lack of scorers to pick in one instance and not any other? What's more, if you pick 2-0, why don't you get a point for correctly picking that "no-one" would score for the losing team? Furthermore, why do you get a point for scorer in 0-0 when you literally haven't made a prediction? To get four points in a 1-0 game, you have to pick the correct score and say which of the players used in the match (including the unlikely event of an OG) made the decisive touch - a much harder task.

Therefore, we have decided that a 0-0 draw scores points the same as any other game: 3 pts for correct score and 1 point for correct result with an extra point for every correct scorer named (which in the case of 0-0 will mean no more points.)
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I'm announcing a change in one of the rules from last year.

The Crystal Ball team has had a long discussion about the practice of awarding four points for a 0-0 draw. The logic when this rule was first introduced was that 0-0 couldn't get extra points for a scorer so they got a point - some said it was for predicted that the scorer was "No-one".

The problem with this logic is that if you correctly predict 1-1, you can get a maximum of two points for scorers but if you predict 2-3, you can get five points for scorers. Why is there compensation for lack of scorers to pick in one instance and not any other? What's more, if you pick 2-0, why don't you get a point for correctly picking that "no-one" would score for the losing team? Furthermore, why do you get a point for scorer in 0-0 when you literally haven't made a prediction? To get four points in a 1-0 game, you have to pick the correct score and say which of the players used in the match (including the unlikely event of an OG) made the decisive touch - a much harder task.

Therefore, we have decided that a 0-0 draw scores points the same as any other game: 3 pts for correct score and 1 point for correct result with an extra point for every correct scorer named (which in the case of 0-0 will mean no more points.)
Sorry but I am still confused - not hard at my age!
Why if I tip 1-1 and am correct without getting any of the scorers correct do I get 3 points but if I tip 0-0 and am correct without getting any of the scorers correct (as there are not any) do I get a bonus point, making 4 in total

Just asking - don't all think me silly
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You don't. You used to get a 4th point for 0-0 but we have done away with that rule.
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But it says:
Therefore, we have decided that a 0-0 draw scores points the same as any other game: 3 pts for correct score and 1 point for correct result with an extra point for every correct scorer named (which in the case of 0-0 will mean no more points.)

So we get 4 points for 0-0 and only 3 points for 1-1?
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But it says:
Therefore, we have decided that a 0-0 draw scores points the same as any other game: 3 pts for correct score and 1 point for correct result with an extra point for every correct scorer named (which in the case of 0-0 will mean no more points.)

So we get 4 points for 0-0 and only 3 points for 1-1?
If you predict the correct result but not the correct score, you get 1 point.
If you predict the correct score, you get 3 points and an extra point for every correct scorer named.
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Chillax, my friend.

It says, and it's in bold: a 0-0 draw scores points the same as any other game.

You're a bit late to the party G56. For several years now you have scored 4 for a 0-0 and 3 for a 1-1 but NOW, as a result of the change that you're highlighting, you score 3 for a 1-1 and 3 for a 0-0. We are changing it from the thing you don't want to the thing you want.

All good?
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First table of the season - 65 names on it

A disappointing result but all too predictable it seems. We finished last season with two tied at the top and we shall open this season the same: wrightchipvcfc and desperado both got 4 points - the former for correct result and being a mere 6 below the official attendance number of 25286; the latter for a close crowd punt and correct score. No-one who foresaw the score picked the scorers but a whole heap got close to the crowd. See if you can find yourself:
wrightchipvcfc 4 result 25280 (-6, closest)
desperado 4 score 25234 (-52)
midlands palace 3 score
Harry Holmesdale 3 score
cpfcfan1 3 score
CoDownEagle 3 score
cappuccinoeagle 3 score
TWELLSEagle 2 result 25213 (-73)
tasty_snacks 2 result 25200 (-86)
sl6 Eagle 2 result 25250 (-36)
SelsEagle 2 result 25300 (+14)
RisZero 2 result 25299 (+13)
philsick 2 result 25354 (+68)
PemboExpress 2 result 25219 (-67)
Marksf 2 score
JJ 2 result 25311 (+25)
hihi 2 result 25236 (-50)
AddoWolz 2 result 25252 (-34)
Hector 1 1 result 25108 (-178)
EddieEdwards 1 1 result 25121 (-165)
CPFC85 1 1 result 25112 (-174)
Andy Newton 1 1 result 25123 (-163)
TrickyD 1 result
Thin on Top 1 result
Stellavista 1 result
Selhurst300 1 25207 (-79)
SeanPalace84 1 25367 (+81)
RobertCPFC 1 25238 (-48)
RazorsEdge 1 result
PurePalace4E4 1 25254 (-32)
Penstone Eagle 1 result
Palacemad2002 1 25300 (+14)
Palace43 1 25297 (+11)
Nth Kent Eagle 1 result
mrgins 1 result
Malarkey 1 25262 (-24)
Little Fozzie 1 result
laboxers 1 result
Jacko 1 25232 (-54)
HurstpierPalace 1 result
hughff 1 25220 (-66)
gold76 1 25329 (+43)
Gark Moldberg 1 result
Fatboy 1 result
Eagle's Nest 1 result
Eaglefoz 1 25329 (+43)
davech 1 25222 (-64)
cpfc@eastbourne 1 25333 (+47)
Cheech 1 25190 (-96)
chatham_eagle 1 25234 (-52)
charltonhater 1 result
Catford Eagle 1 25329 (+43)
Bungalow 1 25267 (-19)
Adlerhorst 1 result
selhurst_bbsh 1 25121 (-165)
Maidstonecpfc 1 25435 (+149)
Latvian 1 25432 (+146)
hilairehair 1 25471 (+185)
Flappy Chicken 1 25135 (-151)
FH_eagle 1 25110 (-176)
Dj 784 1 25101 (-185)
cheekychippie 1 25388 (+102)
casinocolin 1 25110 (-176)
Bald Eagle 1 25471 (+185)
Ant.Palace 1 25113 (-173)
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Actually, this is the table

But it's no different to the first results, apart from the pretty colours.
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Error already, of course. For some reason I hit the 2 key instead of the 3 for Marksf, who had the correct score. I won't re-post everything but it will be correct in the next update.
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But it's no different to the first results, apart from the pretty colours.
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Chillax, my friend.

It says, and it's in bold: a 0-0 draw scores points the same as any other game.

You're a bit late to the party G56. For several years now you have scored 4 for a 0-0 and 3 for a 1-1 but NOW, as a result of the change that you're highlighting, you score 3 for a 1-1 and 3 for a 0-0. We are changing it from the thing you don't want to the thing you want.

All good?
Got it!!
Thanks for all the patience and explaining
Don't think I have very often tipped 0-0 (certainly not correctly) so can't say I ever noticed
Thank for all the hard work you all put into this thread to keep us all amused and entertained
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